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NewBee Introduction

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:17 pm
by falconfixer
Hey all!

I am a self-taught bassist rooted in the classics (to be defined as The Who, Yes, Rush, Zep, etc ;) ) I have been playing for 25+ years (and should be a whole lot better than i am :roll: ) and have not been in any band worthy of mention.

My first bass was a Jap copy of a Fender Jazz (for $100/used) from Chuck Levin's (here in Silver Spring MD). I went too stupid and put Schaller (gold!) machine heads and a Kahler tremolo. Custom face plate. Beautiful. Sounded like ****. Last seen hanging on a wall in a 'retro bar' in Rockville as an ornament.

Then a Gibson that i modified until it was utter ****. Sigh.

Ah - but then i saved my $$ and bought a real AmberGlo 4001. What a great piece of gear! Love. I lowered the action until i had to cut the chrome cover over the bridge pickup and bend it a bit to get it lower. NOW i sounded good. Rocked it until one fateful night.... After the party the next morning-ish i awoke in horror to see the neck busted! :oops: No one at the party would admit to messing with it... In my mind - the bass was totalled - neck-through-body, eh? So i scrapped it. I still have the pick ups and electronics and i think the head trim... Only later did i find out i could have just wood glued/saved the neck. sigh. [pounds head into desk]

I had to get another. Saved again for a MapleGlo 4003 (1982 model) which i have today. The head stock has some water damage (imagine my shock and horror to find the case upside down in a puddle of water! :oops: The water soaked into the head about 2 inches). It is solid where the machine heads are - but not as solid (but not warped - just discolored) The body is in good shape but the neck pick up is INOP.

SO....

My goal is to end up with a JetGlo 4003 ala Geddy Lee (but not like that gear he is using lately!) with that great growly sound...

So my plan is to resurect the beast! This is where i need some helpful advice:

I will strip the body and use filler to fill in the headstock and any dents/damage (not much). The neck is fine/good frets.

I will take to a autobody shop (uh, good idea? Bad?) and have them shoot it gloss black. I know i will lose the white binding - but i guess i am okay with that. Unless i could strip it off and put new bidning back on and then shoot it with clearcoat... Hmmh. I don't know how to do that though...

I will install a badass II bridge and ______ pick ups (I have read the board but have not settled on any particular ones yet). Keeping the Ric-O-Sound function is not important.

OR should i:
Trade for a JetGlo that is already hot-rodded up for some one looking to go stock again?
Should i sell and buy new? Used? I looked at this - but really - i can't fit it into the budget _ unless i am wrong?

My budget is $500 or so...

Truly - any help here is appreciated!

Thanks!

Re: NewBee Introduction

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:31 pm
by s4001
If you have the original bridge, stick with it. If you're not a finicky touring bassist, I see no reason to switch out the bridge. That'll save you some scratch.

Check Lindy Fralin to rewind your doa pickup. He'll turn it into a monster and maybe also save you some money.

Someone here can probably set you in the right direction for a proper refin for reasonable cash.

Welcome to the board.

Re: NewBee Introduction

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:36 pm
by paologregorio
Welcome to the forum.

Ditto on checking with forum members on getting your bass back up to snuff.

Sounds like you have some wild gigs, to say the least!

Re: NewBee Introduction

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:45 pm
by admin
Welcome Karl. I have moved your post here so that the Curmudgeon will see it and left a link so the bass folks can find you too.

Re: NewBee Introduction

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:07 pm
by jingle_jangle
Jdog's your man. Surefin Custom Coatings.

Binding goes on BEFORE paint, so it's usually masked on the side before spraying color, and scraped from the top after spraying. Special tapes must be used, lots of little tricks, yadda yadda.

It doesn't sound as if originality is an issue with you, so if your refinisher can set you up within your budget, you're in like Flynn.

If you can't put together a deal, sell your bass, add your $500.00 and go shopping. Lots of JG 4003s out there, and mods bring the price down.

Good luck!

Re: NewBee Introduction

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:28 pm
by rickaddict
Oh yeah, Paul!

http://rickresource.com/forum/viewtopic ... 41#p500241

Surefin Custom Coatings. The forum's own Jason Mendelson. How could I forget? (kicks self!) I've never seen his work in person, but the photos look great and we all know he's a trustworthy long-time forumite. Not sure if he'd be able to get it done in your price range, but it's worth a shot to contact him.

Re: NewBee Introduction

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:53 pm
by beatlefreak
Welcome to the forum, Karl.

Re: NewBee Introduction

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:54 pm
by jingle_jangle
Note that I received some notes regarding Jeff's recommended refinishing guy, so I cast my vote for Jason Mendelson. Hopefully he can work with you and your budget.

Re: NewBee Introduction

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:01 pm
by jdogric12
Thanks guys! PM sent.

Re: NewBee Introduction

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:46 pm
by antipodean
Welcome Karl! All the best with the project!

Re: NewBee Introduction

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:15 pm
by ram
Welcome Karl,, Chuck's - That's where I got my '74 4001...wow. Hope your project happens. Keep us updated!

Re: NewBee Introduction

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:51 pm
by kiramdear
Welcome to the forum, Karl. After reading your stories, may I suggest that you consider armor plating instead of plastic trim. :lol: :lol:

Re: NewBee Introduction

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:07 am
by pflash4001
Hey, Dale Fortune did a great job on a neck for me. And for a lot less than I anticipated. Drop him a line!

Re: NewBee Introduction

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:48 am
by jps
Welcome, Karl! :D

Re: NewBee Introduction

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:28 pm
by falconfixer
Much thanks!

Good INTEL here (i knew y'all wouldn't let me down! I like the Forum) especially the 'protection' comment ;)

Okay - i will keep the bridge & focus on the sound and looks.

Is a re-wrapped pick up cheaper than new? i guess i need to do some research in this area. I 'assumed' a re-wrap was total custom work/big $$ for the 'purist'.

I did see in the FS section 'stripper' guitars - just body and neck. How often can i expect to see those? That sounds like it would be a good way to go...

i will post some pix as well. Stand By.