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What's the difference between old en new 4005's?
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:27 pm
by berth
I know the older ones have toasters and full width inlay. Are there any other difference's? How do they compare in sound ?
Re: What's the difference between old en new 4005's?
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:34 pm
by sloop_john_b
The necks did get bigger on 70's versions, but not by much.
Jeff Scott and I did a side-to-side A/B test at MARF 2007 - my '74 WB (w/ higains) vs. his '67 WB (w/ toasters). Both had Chromes. IMO, the tone of both instruments was extremely similar, with the '74 being louder.
I would not hesitate to go after a 70's one, unless you're a stickler for ridiculously slim necks, in which case you should wait for a 60's version.
Re: What's the difference between old en new 4005's?
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:35 pm
by sloop_john_b
I'll also add that I currently have a '66 WB, and I prefer the tone of my old '74.
Re: What's the difference between old en new 4005's?
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:41 pm
by jps
The headstock shape did the standard change from '60s voluptuous to modern squat, no walnut wings, but narrow shedua strip added to neck in place of wider walnut strip. Loss of plexi finger rest on newer ones.
I don't remember the tonal differences so go by John's assessment; he is younger and still has plenty of unfilled brain cells to store more data with.
Re: What's the difference between old en new 4005's?
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:22 pm
by paologregorio
I know alot of my fellow forumites go ga ga over walnut wings, but am I the only one sees them and is instantly reminded of one of these?
Re: What's the difference between old en new 4005's?
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:24 pm
by kennyhowes
sloop_john_b wrote:I would not hesitate to go after a 70's one, unless you're a stickler for ridiculously slim necks, in which case you should wait for a 60's version.
Seems like there's a lot more '60s ones out there than '70s, just from off-the-top-of-my-head statistics.
Re: What's the difference between old en new 4005's?
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:33 pm
by sloop_john_b
kennyhowes wrote:
Seems like there's a lot more '60s ones out there than '70s, just from off-the-top-of-my-head statistics.
That's for sure, and the register confirms it: from '65 to '69, there are 44; from '70-'84, there are just 13.
Re: What's the difference between old en new 4005's?
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:28 am
by berth
sloop_john_b wrote:
I would not hesitate to go after a 70's one.
I just paid for an 80's one a couple of days ago.....
Re: What's the difference between old en new 4005's?
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:14 am
by rickaddict
jps wrote:The headstock shape did the standard change from '60s voluptuous to modern squat...
I like both. But I didn't like bulbous!
Re: What's the difference between old en new 4005's?
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:15 am
by rickaddict
berth wrote:&#!@. I just paid for an 80's one a couple of days ago.....
Congrats, Bert!
Re: What's the difference between old en new 4005's?
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:57 pm
by jps
Um.....pics!
Re: What's the difference between old en new 4005's?
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:51 pm
by sloop_john_b
berth wrote:sloop_john_b wrote:
I would not hesitate to go after a 70's one.
I just paid for an 80's one a couple of days ago.....
Even better - more rare!
Pics please!!!
Re: What's the difference between old en new 4005's?
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:57 pm
by berth
jps wrote:Um.....pics!
sloop_john_b wrote:
Even better - more rare!
Pics please!!!
Not Yet. The bass has not even shipped yet....
Re: What's the difference between old en new 4005's?
Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 5:42 pm
by berth
sloop_john_b wrote:Pics please!!!
More and better pics at
the site of the previous owner
Re: What's the difference between old en new 4005's?
Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 5:57 pm
by kennyhowes
Wow, walnut!!! Nice arm mark too.