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Lennon's vocal parts on "This Boy", "If I Fell"

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:43 am
by arrow201
I find these 2 songs some of the toughest to hear exactly what voice Lennon is singing
in the verses.

For "This Boy", i think Lennon is singing the middle part, Paul the high (as usual :) )
and George the lower.

For "If I Fell" ....again easy to hear John singing the lower part in the middle...but trying
to pick out exactly the vocal part he's singing in the verses i find difficult

Does anyone have any link where the voices have been separated or a link where the vocal
parts are correct and can be picked out ? ..thanks ! :)

P.S. I remember there was a link one of about 10 songs (?) "Anytime At All" was one of them
...maybe "If I Fell" too ? ..can't remember ...where the vocals were stripped, was a great
learning tool

Re: Lennon's vocal parts on "This Boy", "If I Fell"

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:39 pm
by tennis_nick
I'm pretty sure John sings the lower part in this boy (the melody)

Re: Lennon's vocal parts on "This Boy", "If I Fell"

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 4:35 pm
by arrow201
tennis_nick wrote:I'm pretty sure John sings the lower part in this boy (the melody)
hmmmm ? ...i also think John sings the melody line below Paul's, but that George sang
a lower harmony below Johns ?

Re: Lennon's vocal parts on "This Boy", "If I Fell"

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:05 pm
by tennis_nick
arrow201 wrote:
tennis_nick wrote:I'm pretty sure John sings the lower part in this boy (the melody)
hmmmm ? ...i also think John sings the melody line below Paul's, but that George sang
a lower harmony below Johns ?
If you listen to the BBC recordings, John is definitely singing the lowest of the 3 parts. George is in the middle, singing that really tough middle harmony he seems to do so well, reminds of "You really Got a hold on me" (even though that was a low harmony)

Re: Lennon's vocal parts on "This Boy", "If I Fell"

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:38 pm
by arrow201
tennis_nick wrote:
arrow201 wrote:
tennis_nick wrote:I'm pretty sure John sings the lower part in this boy (the melody)
hmmmm ? ...i also think John sings the melody line below Paul's, but that George sang
a lower harmony below Johns ?
If you listen to the BBC recordings, John is definitely singing the lowest of the 3 parts. George is in the middle, singing that really tough middle harmony he seems to do so well, reminds of "You really Got a hold on me" (even though that was a low harmony)
ahhhhhhh ...ya, sounds like John is doing the lowest @ ~ 2:36 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTzPyHfMPA4

Re: Lennon's vocal parts on "This Boy", "If I Fell"

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:47 pm
by mgauction
Good post! I have never been able to nail John's part from "If I Fell."
arrow201 wrote:I find these 2 songs some of the toughest to hear exactly what voice Lennon is singing
in the verses.

For "This Boy", i think Lennon is singing the middle part, Paul the high (as usual :) )
and George the lower.

For "If I Fell" ....again easy to hear John singing the lower part in the middle...but trying
to pick out exactly the vocal part he's singing in the verses i find difficult

Does anyone have any link where the voices have been separated or a link where the vocal
parts are correct and can be picked out ? ..thanks ! :)

P.S. I remember there was a link one of about 10 songs (?) "Anytime At All" was one of them
...maybe "If I Fell" too ? ..can't remember ...where the vocals were stripped, was a great
learning tool

Re: Lennon's vocal parts on "This Boy", "If I Fell"

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:23 pm
by arrow201
mgauction wrote:Good post! I have never been able to nail John's part from "If I Fell."
Mike, someone is supposed to show me that vocal, if i get it and think it's right, i'll
send it to ya .... :)

For "This Boy" ...still a little up in the air about this one, Lennon definitely sings the low
melody line, but still wondering if George sings a lower vocal below that.... anyway am able
to pick out Lennons vocal from that youtube site :)

Re: Lennon's vocal parts on "This Boy", "If I Fell"

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:32 pm
by admin
While you are at it, please have a close look at "Yes It Is" as it is similar to "This Boy" and "If I Fell" with regard to the harmonies.

Re: Lennon's vocal parts on "This Boy", "If I Fell"

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:03 pm
by mgauction
OK. Thanks, Gordon!
arrow201 wrote:
mgauction wrote:Good post! I have never been able to nail John's part from "If I Fell."
Mike, someone is supposed to show me that vocal, if i get it and think it's right, i'll
send it to ya .... :)

For "This Boy" ...still a little up in the air about this one, Lennon definitely sings the low
melody line, but still wondering if George sings a lower vocal below that.... anyway am able
to pick out Lennons vocal from that youtube site :)

Re: Lennon's vocal parts on "This Boy", "If I Fell"

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:19 pm
by tennis_nick
arrow201 wrote:
mgauction wrote:Good post! I have never been able to nail John's part from "If I Fell."
Mike, someone is supposed to show me that vocal, if i get it and think it's right, i'll
send it to ya .... :)

For "This Boy" ...still a little up in the air about this one, Lennon definitely sings the low
melody line, but still wondering if George sings a lower vocal below that.... anyway am able
to pick out Lennons vocal from that youtube site :)

George is definitely in the middle, if he goes lower than John on some notes, I'd still call him the middle harmony. I still find this to be the hardest part to sing, I can get bits of it, but I lose it in the middle of the verse.
admin wrote:While you are at it, please have a close look at "Yes It Is" as it is similar to "This Boy" and "If I Fell" with regard to the harmonies.
Funny you mention that, I tried recording Yes It Is a few months ago and came up with this. I think the harmonies are correct, barring a few "off-key monents" but I was young at the time you see!

Odd arrangement

Traditional Arrangement

Re: Lennon's vocal parts on "This Boy", "If I Fell"

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:57 pm
by arrow201
Hey guys, thanks for your replies ! ...a big help :)

Nicolas, great work with "Yes It Is" ...has always been a fav of mine and you do a great job !

Mike ... PM sent.