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Hi Again,

Now I've got the guitar, I wondered how you guys and gals get your recorded rik guitar tones onto your computer for recording demos etc?

I've been producing my band for a couple of years at home, and have tried all kinds of things, and obviously the best way is usually a good amp, cranked up, with an SM57 in front of it .

I just wondered if anyone had got good results with stuff like the Pod XT Pro or the Hughes & Kettner Tubeman etc.

What I'm looking for is something to capture the clean tones of my Rik, without having to upset the neighbours by recording through an amp. I can't really do this anymore as I want to record late at night with a decent amp modeller or DI box.

Any suggestions on products I should be looking out for would be great. I'm not a millionaire so anything like an Axe FX Ultra is out of my reach.

Thanks A Lot

I've had a lot of good tones come out of my Tech 21 Liverpool pedal-it has an emulated speaker output on it, and sounds great direct in to your DAW interface. It's the perfect compliment for a Rickenbacker 6 string for all eras of famous tones, IMO

I have a pod, but after spending a lot of time with tube amps, it has seemed to be lacking in tone- especially when not using a lot of effects.

The thing that has worked best for me lately for direct recording is to go through a Damage Control Womanizer pedal, clean or dirty, out on the "emulator" side and then EQ, add chorus, delay and reverb at the DAW side. I can get a good sound, but it isn't exactly like my DC30 clone or my Flexi.

Hi,

Good suggestions, thank you.

I used to own the womanizer a couple of years ago, but always found it sounded slightly over compressed, but it was a cool device.

The Tech 21 Liverpool sounds good. I've just checked out some reviews on you tube etc, and it seems like a good way to go.

Is there any other kind of analog speaker sim that I should be aware of, we always seem to get these things late in the UK, compared to you guys in the States?

Thanks Again

sdbanotts wrote:...we always seem to get these things late in the UK, compared to you guys in the States?

Thanks Again

Let's put things in perspective here. You had The Beatles, The Who, The Rolling Stones, etc. way before we had them!

It just takes a long time to translate our language into yours.

Yes, there is some compression in the unit, but some of it is a bit fiddleable. I have been impressed with the Tech21 products I've used, but have admittedly a growing allergy to solid state (some of my problem is psychogenic, I'm sure.)

For real amp/speaker simulation, a great number of things have to occur. The stages of the amp and types of distortion need to be reasonably mimicked. Then, the speaker curves, mic curves and room curves have to interact- even before messing around with time domain stuff from the room. I was discussing doing a product like this with an engineer friend: doing it right would take a considerable amount of time we haven't had.

jps wrote:

sdbanotts wrote:...we always seem to get these things late in the UK, compared to you guys in the States?

Thanks Again

Let's put things in perspective here. You had The Beatles, The Who, The Rolling Stones, etc. way before we had them!

and The Smiths, The Jam, The Stone Roses...Still you did have The Byrds, Tim Buckley, Jeff Buckley ,Prince, The Strokes, etc. etc so we're all good.

sdbanotts wrote:

jps wrote:

sdbanotts wrote:...we always seem to get these things late in the UK, compared to you guys in the States?

Thanks Again

Let's put things in perspective here. You had The Beatles, The Who, The Rolling Stones, etc. way before we had them!

and The Smiths, The Jam, The Stone Roses...Still you did have The Byrds, Tim Buckley, Jeff Buckley ,Prince, The Strokes, etc. etc so we're all good.

[thread drift] I always thought that it was rather ironic that the Beatles and early on the Stones, and the Animals were basically exporting back to the US our own music, rock'n'roll.[/thread drift]
JimK

true, true....

Also forgot to add The Doors and The West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band to that list, as well as Motown and Stax.

A good friend who runs his own studio and plays guitar as his own session man uses a line-6 pod exlusively. He does have the benefit of a full-fat state-of-the-art recording console and playback/monitor system rather than a manky PC with $200 worth of recording software so this may not be comparing apples with apples.

Hi Evan,

Do you know what POD it is?
Is it the XT Pro, the rack mounted version?
I've heard good things about them.
Cheers
Scott

Last time I was in his studio he was using a Pod II - classic Pod shape, not rack-mounted.

I use an Apogee Duet (http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/duet.php) which allows 2 phono or 2 XLR inputs at a time (so you can use Ric-O-Sound!). I also use Logic and besides their guitar plug ins I purchased:

IK MultiMedia's Amplitube 2 (http://www.ikmultimedia.com/amplitube/features/)
Amplitube Fender (http://www.ikmultimedia.com/fender/features/)
Waves GTR (http://www.wavesgtr.com/html/product_gtr_solo.html) Waves GTR solo is free for a year!

I think with the right tweaking of the settings you can get some really good sound.

Thanks for all the responses so far.

Just an update on this.

I've ordered a Tech 21 Liverpool pedal which should arrive in the UK soon, so I'll post a report on how it sounds connected up to my software.

I'm really hoping it's as good as the review/You Tube clips suggest, it could be a big problem solver.

Anyone have anything to say on them?

Cheers
Scott