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4003s and toasters

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:20 pm
by calluses
hi guys,

i'm wondering if anyone has replaced the stock hi gain neck PUP with a 12k toaster (e.g. from a V63) on a 4003 (from 2006 or later). if so, what's the tonal impact of such a mod?

does such a mod even make sense from a versatility/functional perspective, as the newer 4003s have the vintage tone selector?

just wondering if anyone has tried it, and if so, how does it change the sound. and what's the effect of flipping on the 'vintage tone selector' if you have the 12k toaster as neck PUP?

Re: 4003s and toasters

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:45 am
by stevebasshead
Hi, the 12K toasters sound quite similar to the regular button pole higains in my experience. What little difference I could hear would be lost in a mix. The lower gain toasters are much more noticably different though.

The vintage switch only affects the bridge pickup only (by filtering out the bass) so it won't affect the sound of the toaster.

Hope this helps,
Steve.

Re: 4003s and toasters

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:21 pm
by johnallg
stevebasshead wrote:Hi, the 12K toasters sound quite similar to the regular button pole higains in my experience. What little difference I could hear would be lost in a mix. The lower gain toasters are much more noticably different though.

The vintage switch only affects the bridge pickup only (by filtering out the bass) so it won't affect the sound of the toaster.

Hope this helps,
Steve.
I concur with Stephen. At 12k, you lose the clarity, finesse, and definition the 7.4k toasters have over the higains.

Re: 4003s and toasters

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:45 pm
by calluses
thanks!

ordered a 7.4k toaster from POTR :D

Re: 4003s and toasters

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:58 pm
by cassius987
I just played my 2009 4003 MG with double Toasters and nickel SunBeams (DR Handmade). Good God!! That bass sounds FANTASTIC. I am all about double Toasters, even on the fretted basses now.

Re: 4003s and toasters

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:12 pm
by jps
cassius987 wrote:I am all about double Toasters, even on the fretted basses now.
:D My first Rickenbacker, which I still have, has DoubleToastersĀ®. :D

Re: 4003s and toasters

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:07 pm
by cassius987
Jeff, do I need to put the copyright thing next to it every time, since I blatantly stole the idea from you? Although... it looks like you stole it from RIC! :lol:

Re: 4003s and toasters

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:19 am
by woodyng
so josh,are your doubletoasted ricks using the 7.4's or the hotter t-pickups? i really like the dr sunbeams as well,what gauge are you using?

Re: 4003s and toasters

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:29 am
by s4001
I've been doubletoasted before.

Oh, wait....

Re: 4003s and toasters

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:05 pm
by cassius987
My post may have been a tad OT because my Toasters are all low resistance. The neck pickup in my 4003FL is 6.8, the bridge is 7.3. On my 4003 they're both 7.4 dead on. The gauge of the Sunbeams I use is .40-.95. I love lighter gauges for the decreased tension and the extra pliability that results.

Re: 4003s and toasters

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:47 pm
by woodyng
thanks,trying to keep all these facts straight. i am a fan of "underpowered" pickups,the pickups on my dano hodad bass are pretty weak/low o.p.,but they sound great with a lot of amperage! i've got 40-100 sunbeams on both my ricks,it does give a certain elasticity to the proceedings....

Re: 4003s and toasters

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:38 pm
by jps
...if you really want elasticity try TI Jazz Rounds. For the ultimate in elasticity TI Acousticores are IT! But they won't work with magnetic pickups.

Re: 4003s and toasters

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:16 pm
by falconfixer
jps wrote:
cassius987 wrote:I am all about double Toasters, even on the fretted basses now.
:D My first Rickenbacker, which I still have, has DoubleToastersĀ®. :D
^Wow! She's beautiful! Forgive my newbyness - what model is that? Is there a linkee to the 'model of the week' that covered it?

Simply wow. :D

Re: 4003s and toasters

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:41 pm
by badeggs
falconfixer wrote:^Wow! She's beautiful! Forgive my newbyness - what model is that? Is there a linkee to the 'model of the week' that covered it?

Simply wow. :D
That's a 4005, specifically a late-60s double-bound. They stopped making them in '84 (I think) and though many may clamor for Rick to bring them back, it ain't gonna happen...

Re: 4003s and toasters

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:01 pm
by jps
Specifically, that is my '67 4005WB that I bought in '73, my first Rick! Still have it. :D