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4004 On E-Bay - Thoughts?
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:52 pm
by spongebob
Spotted this on E-bay -
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rickenbacker-4004 ... 1|294%3A50
Isn't this an old colour? No feedback, new 'old' stock?
I'm not looking to buy (honestly) but keep a look out on what comes up. It looks like the face lift pick-up position?
Re: 4004 On E-Bay - Thoughts?
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:27 pm
by incubus2432
Well it's a discontinued model.....the 4004Ci. Excellent basses, my favorite next to the LK......maple fretboards rule!
The zero feedback would make me hesitate as well but some specific pics would ease my mind and I'd go for it if the price stays reasonable.
Re: 4004 On E-Bay - Thoughts?
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:58 pm
by deblase4001
Yeah, I was looking at that one too. The zero feedback and being located in Singapore scares me though. I really love the look of that bass. I noticed that the D and G strings are not lined up with the string guides on the bridge - whats up with that? Someone set it up improperly or were they trying compensate for some problem?
Re: 4004 On E-Bay - Thoughts?
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:16 pm
by rickenbrother
deblase4001 wrote:Yeah, I was looking at that one too. The zero feedback and being located in Singapore scares me though. I really love the look of that bass. I noticed that the D and G strings are not lined up with the string guides on the bridge - whats up with that? Someone set it up improperly or were they trying compensate for some problem?
bridge.jpg
A zero feedback seller from Singapore makes me wary as well, but he could be a decent guy and has to start sometime.
I have the feeling that who ever changed the strings on the bass was not careful when they pulled the strings through the holes in the back of the bridge, causing the adjustable rollers to turn hard enough to jam into the sides of the saddles. When this happens, they can be a bit tough to turn to get away from side of the saddle. He probably couldn't turn them to center them, so he put the strings as you see in the pic. An eraser usually works well to undo a jammed roller.
Re: 4004 On E-Bay - Thoughts?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:10 am
by spongebob
I agree - looks good, but 'caveat emptor'.

Re: 4004 On E-Bay - Thoughts?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:18 pm
by deblase4001
From the ebay description:
Nestled into a massive metal tailpiece, the height adjustable bridge reflects maximum string energy back as extra punch. Individually saddled strings have generous intonation adjustment range. A variable mute assembly hides out of the way until called upon; each side adjusts separately. Strings are easily threaded through the end of the tailpiece for rapid changes.
I have never played a 4004 series bass. Is there really a mute assembly on the tailpiece?
Re: 4004 On E-Bay - Thoughts?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:42 pm
by cassius987
That's ripped right out of a 4003 description. Not a good sign re: this seller.
Re: 4004 On E-Bay - Thoughts?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:46 pm
by jps
cassius987 wrote:That's ripped right out of a 4003 description. Not a good sign re: this seller.
+1000; be vewwyyy caeful out dare!

Re: 4004 On E-Bay - Thoughts?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:02 pm
by marc61
I was just checking out the pictures from the link below. It shows a Re-issue case. Will a Cheyenne fit in that?
Re: 4004 On E-Bay - Thoughts?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:06 pm
by rickenbrother
marc61 wrote:I was just checking out the pictures from the link below. It shows a Re-issue case. Will a Cheyenne fit in that?
Yes it will.
Re: 4004 On E-Bay - Thoughts?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:29 pm
by gshadoan
He's got 1 positive for selling a hot plate now, so who knows. Most likley ligit.
Re: 4004 On E-Bay - Thoughts?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:54 pm
by cassius987
Well, a guitar is not a hot plate, and ignorance about guitars can be just as big of a problem as greed or deceit when they are sold. I would still be leery.
Re: 4004 On E-Bay - Thoughts?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:09 pm
by johnallg
deblase4001 wrote:From the ebay description:
Nestled into a massive metal tailpiece, the height adjustable bridge reflects maximum string energy back as extra punch. Individually saddled strings have generous intonation adjustment range. A variable mute assembly hides out of the way until called upon; each side adjusts separately. Strings are easily threaded through the end of the tailpiece for rapid changes.
I have never played a 4004 series bass. Is there really a mute assembly on the tailpiece?
Sure as he!! not on mine!

Re: 4004 On E-Bay - Thoughts?
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 3:02 am
by weemac
Well.. If you asked for "Proof of life" pic (todays date on paper lying on the bass) and he does it. It will again show that he has access to the bass.... And is probably genuine...
However no reply or dodgy reply...... Barge pole!
Eden.
Re: 4004 On E-Bay - Thoughts?
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:48 pm
by ianmatth
Couldn't be that new. It appears to be a 4004Cii with an ABM bridge, and I know for a fact the 2008 4004Cii does not use that bridge any more. Also, if it is a maple fingerboard that would make it really old (I have a 1998 4004L 4-2-5 with a maple fingerboard). The 4004 series has used bubinga fingerboards for quite a while, but maybe the maple fingerboard was a typo. Of course Rickenbacker needs to update their site in a big way. They still show the 4004 series having the pickup back from the fretboard, and they haven't made a 4004 that way since at least 2004 (both the 1998 and 2005 4004 series have the neck pickup right against the fretboard, so the pictures on the Rickenbacker site are showing the models they were making somewhere between 1999-2004.) They also still have the 4004Cii5 on their site as well, and that was discontinued years ago.