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Intonation of my E String- not long enough?!?!?
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:36 pm
by Bighouse
Using my needle chromatic tuner (Boss TU-12H) I just adjusted my intonation on my strings. I used the method as described on the Gibson website...tuning the string at the 12th fret chromatic to pitch, then checking that against the fretted pitch at the twelth fret. If the fretted note was sharp, I lengthened the string, if it was flat, I shortened the string. The A, D and G strings adjusted perfectly. The chromatic and the fretted are now one...HOWEVER...I cannot lengthen the E string bridge saddle any more, it's as far back as it will go and I'm not sure how to remedy this. Is there some kind of a weird aftermarket replacement saddle available to cantilver the saddle so it sits further back towards the end of the tailpiece? I've got a 1982 4001 with all factory specs, including the tailpiece. My strings are roundwound D'Addario XL's.
Re: Intonation of my E String- not long enough?!?!?
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:33 pm
by johnallg
I would measure from the E nut slot (fretboard side) to the place on the E saddle the string first hits (also on the fretboard side) then divide by 2 and see where the middle hits near the 12th fret. Something does not sound right. No pun intended.
The only way to move it back further is to tilt the whole bridge assy (all 4 saddles) towards the tail of the bass. Then the other three strings would need to be re-intonated after height adjustment.
Re: Intonation of my E String- not long enough?!?!?
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:44 pm
by doctorwho
Bighouse wrote:... tuning the string at the 12th fret chromatic to pitch, then checking that against the fretted pitch at the twelth fret ...
Did you mean, ""... tuning the
open string, then checking ..."?
Also, what gauge is your E string ... if it's not the stock 0.010", that could go toward explaining the issue.
Re: Intonation of my E String- not long enough?!?!?
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:27 am
by johnallg
Gary, your estimation of his E string is a factor of 10 off... bass guitar.

Re: Intonation of my E String- not long enough?!?!?
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:54 am
by beatlefreak
Also, is the bass set up properly? Have the truss rods been adjusted for an absolutely flat neck? Note that on an '82, you can't just tighten the truss rods - The neck must be manually adjusted.
Re: Intonation of my E String- not long enough?!?!?
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:58 pm
by doctorwho
beatlefreak wrote:Also, is the bass set up properly? Have the truss rods been adjusted for an absolutely flat neck? Note that on an '82, you can't just tighten the truss rods - The neck must be manually adjusted.
Oops!

I guess I needed to read
all of the post before making a comment!
However, the gauge of the string probably is important here as well ... a gauge different from factory standard may contribute to a problem with intonation.
Re: Intonation of my E String- not long enough?!?!?
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:33 pm
by jps
doctorwho wrote:Oops!

I guess I needed to read
all of the post before making a comment!
So, is this why California is on the IOU system, at the moment?

Re: Intonation of my E String- not long enough?!?!?
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:12 pm
by doctorwho
jps wrote:doctorwho wrote:Oops!

I guess I needed to read
all of the post before making a comment!
So, is this why California is on the IOU system, at the moment?

Although I can speak
like The Governator, I can't speak
for him ...

Re: Intonation of my E String- not long enough?!?!?
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:08 pm
by jps
Your Governator, in the
flesh!

Re: Intonation of my E String- not long enough?!?!?
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:20 pm
by cjj
Ya know, I've always thought that since it's officially called a Gubernatorial Election, the man should really be referred to as the Gubernator...
Somehow, that just sounds more fitting...

Re: Intonation of my E String- not long enough?!?!?
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:53 pm
by doctorwho
Actually quite fitting for Jimmy Carter when he was "gubernator" of Georgia ...

Re: Intonation of my E String- not long enough?!?!?
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:24 am
by jimk
doctorwho wrote:Actually quite fitting for Jimmy Carter when he was "gubernator" of Georgia ...

...or should that be "goobernator?"
JimK
Re: Intonation of my E String- not long enough?!?!?
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:45 am
by Bighouse
mmmm....goobers

Re: Intonation of my E String- not long enough?!?!?
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:51 am
by cjj
Re: Intonation of my E String- not long enough?!?!?
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:52 am
by Bighouse
Hey- it's LATE in Montana- get to bed!!! You have ranching work to do early in the morning CJ!