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JH and the inlays

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:55 pm
by scotty
Sounds like a cool band.............Ok here is something i read today and thought about sharing with you Orrible lot...

Why don't modern Rickenbackers have the same inlays as they did back in the sixties?

"There's only one correct answer [...] this material hasn't been
made for more than 20 years. We've looked at a zillion samples
of materials purported to be "just the same" but they are not.

When something comes along that looks just like the original, be
assured that we'll use it. In the meantime, we continue to search
for this from every vendor we can find but to date it's been
fruitless."


"The original material was an acrylic resin material in sheet form.
The pearlescent which rather looks like sea snail shell was also
acrylic. It appears to have been made by grinding the shell sheet
material and pouring that together with the resin. The Japanese
company which made this specialized in drum shell coverings, so I
suppose this was essentially a by-product made from scrap
material.

All of the samples we have seen through the years differ
significantly from the original material in a variety of ways. In
many the colors and/or degree of pearlescence is just wrong. Other
material has a grain that is too coarse or too fine. Finally. much
material is not mechanically suited to being inlayed, crowned,
coated, and polished.

The process we use now . . . . still all synthetic . . . has come
through a long evolution and doesn't much resemble the process as
described elsewhere in this thread. Extensive procedural and
formula changes were made in 1984 and again in 1990. This is about
the only area in our process that we truly consider a "trade
secret". It's also very demanding and the materials themselves are
difficult to work with.

If the old material were available, we'd jump back to using it in
a minute!"

[John Hall 12/24/1999]

I realise this is 10 years ago but i thought id post it anyway. :idea:

Re: JH and the inlays

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:13 pm
by kiramdear
Thank you, Scott, I never realized how much goes into every little detail of our fave objects d'art, and what a challenge it is to keep things consistent with them over a 50 year period. I guess the more things change, the harder they have to try to keep them the same.

Re: JH and the inlays

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:24 pm
by 1965
Image

Looks pretty good to me.

Re: JH and the inlays

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:48 pm
by godber
Beautiful.

Re: JH and the inlays

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:08 pm
by kiramdear
BTW, I wouldn't mind the title of being one of the Inlays in John's band, but as a long standing size seven I would take umbrage with a qualification of full-width .

Re: JH and the inlays

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:42 am
by atomic_punk
Kira, you would be more like a "dot". :)

Re: JH and the inlays

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:16 am
by collin
atomic_punk wrote:Kira, you would be more like a "dot". :)
But hopefully not a mere "side dot" :lol:

Don't worry Kira----you'd make a fine Inlay! How about 12th? It's the most important one.... :wink:

Re: JH and the inlays

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:27 am
by seyesbass
All together now....
All you need is clay! da da da da dah....

Re: JH and the inlays

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:23 am
by longhouse
*will not make inlay joke*
*will not make inlay joke*

I was in a guitar shop in Bethlehem, PA a few years hence. Upon hearing I was a Ric player, the owner brought out what he termed 'one of the rarest Rickenbackers on the face of the earth'. It was a Fireglo 4080. Despite not being completely bowled over, I was mildly impressed to see the guitar. The shop manager continued to boast, this time stating that HE knew where a great cache of crushed pearl inlay material was to be found. Clearly he was taking the secret to his grave or some other nonsense.

Think it was Guitar Villa (the old store in Beth., not the new one in Quakertown) ...'course it might have been another place altogether (Gary's Vintage).

It would be great if some crushed pear were to resurface in the industry.

Re: JH and the inlays

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:43 pm
by longhouse
longhouse wrote:It would be great if some crushed pear were to resurface in the industry.
Er, make that crushed pearl.

Re: JH and the inlays

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:09 pm
by jingle_jangle
The crushed pearl is out there. Prices, however, remove it from consideration now as a material in mass production.

I mean, the stuff is crazy expensive.

Re: JH and the inlays

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:52 pm
by scotty
Yeah ok the new material on the FWI pops out and it does have a certain smokey swirl but the crushed pearl is the thing, nothing compares.Paul i think B&Q ordered a shed load of the material for their £29.99 toilet seats..Sparkly I don't believe it....







BTW How crass this person used a Madgic tree to freshen their toilet how common :x :lol:

Re: JH and the inlays

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:08 pm
by jingle_jangle
That yer trainer, Scottie? Watch yer aim, now!

Anyway, that's glitter in that seat. No Rick material. Talk about crass!

Re: JH and the inlays

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:14 pm
by scotty
the glitz and the Glamour.....the RRF has it all. :D

Re: JH and the inlays

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:10 pm
by jingle_jangle
And we smell good in the bargain!