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73 basses.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:39 am
by s4001
Is it just me, or does it seem that if you find a checker bass - nine out of ten times - it's a 73? Was there a spike in production then or are the 70-72 basses hoarded?

Or am I just suffering from selective memory?

Re: 73 basses.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:23 am
by sloop_john_b
No doubt. Production climbs steadily every year of the 70's, probably up until '77.

Re: 73 basses.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:56 am
by ilan
Maybe there's another factor here. Many pre-73 4001's with full width inlays, toaster and all the goodies are in the hands of collectors. Now the mid-73 Rics with checkerboard binding and smaller post-73 inlays surface, they can still be had for reasonable prices. A bit like '79 hardtail Strats in the vintage market: they were the least desirable among collectors but now there is some demand simply because they are the last of the wide headstock 70's Strats that are still affordable.

Re: 73 basses.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:03 am
by teeder
Absolutely. '69-'71's are almost no existent. '72's pop up here and there and then '73's are somewhat common, relatively speaking.
Though my '71 21 fretter has seen better days, I feel very fortunate to have one that is so rare.
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Re: 73 basses.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:52 am
by wints
Yup, the 70-71's are very scarce, basically the 60's stuff still hanging around in a flat time, and then the Squire factor kicks in, with production steadily rising. Slowly at first, with the early 72's, (you still don't see many of them) and then slightly more by mid to late 72, until production really gets under way in 73.

Once the post 73 features are in place the numbers really increase.

Re: 73 basses.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:56 pm
by chucksimms
Is there any educated guesses on production numbers? I've heard that the Smith book is not very reliable (though to me it looks like a reasonable estimate). I'd never heard the flipside, that '77 was the high water mark for production. How many would that be?
I passed on a '74 two years ago and kick myself- it was a phenomenal instrument. One day I'll have a '73... one day.

Re: 73 basses.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:33 pm
by jps
chucksimms wrote:One day I'll have a '73... one day.
You could have had my FG July '73 4001 for a very good price a couple months ago. :wink: Toaster, CB. I gave it to a friend of mine. :shock:

Re: 73 basses.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:47 pm
by marc61
jps wrote: I gave it to a friend of mine.
Damn! Pays to be a friend of JPS

Re: 73 basses.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:08 pm
by johnallg
Not too many '74s either.

Re: 73 basses.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:24 pm
by weemac
johnallg wrote:Not too many '74s either.
Not may that have escaped the Geddy mods.... :lol:

Re: 73 basses.

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:12 am
by rickaddict
Well, looking at what's been compiled in the register of this forum, I'd say that whether the earlier 4001's are in the hands of collectors or not...It looks to me like a whole lot more were made in 1973 than in '69, '70, '71, and '72 combined. In fact, there are more 1973 4001's registered than any other year.

Here's how many 4001's are in the register for each year, from 1963 through 1984:

1963 - 1
1964 - 12
1965 - 1
1966 - 1
1967 - 5
1968 - 12
1969 - 9
1970 - 11
1971 - 13
1972 - 47
1973 - 164
1974 - 137
1975 - 122
1976 - 143
1977 - 119
1978 - 156
1979 - 112
1980 - 94
1981 - 56
1982 - 35
1983 - 9
1984 - 6

Re: 73 basses.

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:56 am
by ken_j
A good friend has a '72 (MG). He is not a member here nor is it registered.

Re: 73 basses.

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:05 pm
by brycycle
add a +1 to the '72s - on my way to pick it up.

Re: 73 basses.

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:53 pm
by bob77362
It's funny you mention '79 hardtail Strats. i have one of those too, to go along with my early '74 4001 with checkerboard/azureglo.

Bob

Re: 73 basses.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:46 pm
by BAD RONBO, KiLLeR DWaRfS
my jan. '70 was the 13th made for that month in mapleglo. i dubbed it "crawlspacebass" cause that's were it was found...under a house ! threw the case out as it was green with mould and the clear coat was eaten away by mildew but did not harm the wood. of course a 21 fretter.