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Combo 600 question

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:21 pm
by egosheep
I was looking at Grahams site, and while most of the combo 600's have a back plate and some degree of hollowing-out, the cloverfield green one does not:

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I was wondering, is this a solid body, or does it have a wooden back like a 325?

Re: Combo 600 question

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:32 pm
by beatlefreak
I don't know, but I would love to have one of those one day. I think they are so cool looking!

Re: Combo 600 question

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:45 pm
by egosheep
beatlefreak wrote:I don't know, but I would love to have one of those one day. I think they are so cool looking!
Yeah, they are some of coolest guitars ever, I think. How about a matching pair:

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That color green, the gold guards, toaster/HS combo, bigsby... everything on this guitar is just bad. 8)

Re: Combo 600 question

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:21 pm
by jsm610
I was looking at Grahams site, and while most of the combo 600's have a back plate and some degree of hollowing-out, the cloverfield green one does not:
No offense meant by the following nitpicking:
- It isn't a combo 600 (combo 800)
- It isn't Cloverfield green (Turquoise blue)
I was wondering, is this a solid body, or does it have a wooden back like a 325?
Solid.

A combo 600:
IMG_2857.jpg

Re: Combo 600 question

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:29 pm
by egosheep
jsm610 wrote:
I was looking at Grahams site, and while most of the combo 600's have a back plate and some degree of hollowing-out, the cloverfield green one does not:
No offense meant by the following nitpicking:
- It isn't a combo 600 (combo 800)
- It isn't Cloverfield green (Turquoise blue)
I was wondering, is this a solid body, or does it have a wooden back like a 325?
Solid.

A combo 600:
IMG_2857.jpg
Thanks for the clarification! What differentiated the 600 from the 800?

Re: Combo 600 question

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:37 pm
by jsm610
Thanks for the clarification! What differentiated the 600 from the 800?
Visually the 800 has those two switches, the 600 has one. From a function perspective, the 800 has 'two pickups' in there; 9 tones. The 600 has a lonely 'ol single coil horseshoe...

Re: Combo 600 question

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:11 pm
by customxke
The bigby'd one is an 850.

Re: Combo 600 question

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:12 pm
by beatlefreak
Yes, I thought that was an 800. I hadn't bothered researching earlier.

Re: Combo 600 question

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:14 pm
by 8mileshigher
A couple of questions:
What year of manufacture or circa are those turqouise beauties pictured ?

When did they evolve from the single Horseshoe to the dual pickup configuration ?

Re: Combo 600 question

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:53 pm
by egosheep
8mileshigher wrote:A couple of questions:
What year of manufacture or circa are those turqouise beauties pictured ?

When did they evolve from the single Horseshoe to the dual pickup configuration ?
The combo 800, pictured first, was from 1957. It has two pickup coils underneath the horseshoe.

The second is a combo 850 from 1958. It has a toaster at the neck, and I'm assuming something single coil at the bridge, not a dual coil like the 800.

Re: Combo 600 question

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:19 pm
by 8mileshigher
Thanks for clarifying about the distinctions betweeen the two.

Re: Combo 600 question

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:18 pm
by egosheep
Does anyone know the name/code of this paint color? I've heard it called Cloverfield Green and Turquoise.. is it exactly the same as the modern Ric Turquoise?

Just such an awesome color with the gold! :shock:

Re: Combo 600 question

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:33 pm
by jsm610
Does anyone know the name/code of this paint color? I've heard it called Cloverfield Green and Turquoise.
Is this photo, the green guitar is Cloverfield Green, the blue(ish) guitar is Turquoise Blue. (those are the color names from the catalogs)
IMG_3679-(1).jpg
is it exactly the same as the modern Ric Turquoise?
No.

Re: Combo 600 question

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:09 pm
by egosheep
jsm610 wrote:
Does anyone know the name/code of this paint color? I've heard it called Cloverfield Green and Turquoise.
Is this photo, the green guitar is Cloverfield Green, the blue(ish) guitar is Turquoise Blue. (those are the color names from the catalogs)
IMG_3679-(1).jpg
is it exactly the same as the modern Ric Turquoise?
No.
Thanks for the great photo. So the combo 800 and 850 above, are they both Turquoise Blue? Did the combos ever come in Cloverfield Green?

And do you know of a close color available today?

Re: Combo 600 question

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:22 pm
by jsm610
Thanks for the great photo.
Sure
So the combo 800 and 850 above, are they both Turquoise Blue?
The combo 800 looks to me to be the original Turquoise Blue. The 850 was originally natural, and put back together and refinished in the early 80's in a Turquoise that resembled the original Turquoise Blue. The 600 is original Turquoise Blue.
Did the combos ever come in Cloverfield Green?
Combos 600, 800, and 850 - no. Not per the catalogs, and I've never seen one. I guess one should never say never...
Combos 400 & 450 - Yes, Cloverfield Green was one of the standard colors.
And do you know of a close color available today?
I haven't seen a good version of Cloverfield and/or Turquoise Blue on a refin, but I'm sure it's mostly due to painters not having an original finish to compare it too...