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Paul's fingerstyle bass playing
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:21 pm
by JakeK
Re: Paul's fingerstyle bass playing
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:22 am
by vynesmusic
I'm new to the forum here...proud owner of a FireGlow Rick 360-12....I have to weigh in on Paul's bass playing, because I started as a bassist in 1965, and it wasn't until years later that I realized how much he, along with George Martin, changed the entire concept of bass. 2 songs changed everything, and later a 3rd..."Rain" and "Nowhere Man" took bass to a new level, and later, "Come Together". The fact that he could play parts like those and "Paperback Writer" AND sing so well raised the bar very high for electric combo sound. Paul is the master of electric bass....strangely enough, another Rickenbacker family member, Byrd's bassist Chris Hillman, was contemporary with Paul, and outstanding in his own right. His bass parts on the "5D" and "Younger Than Yesterday" albums were virtuoso caliber. Both Chris and Paul played extraordinary patterns, yet they remained bass patterns, weaving under the song and pushing the melodies....it was not the wannabe lead guitar stuff of a few other bassists indemic to the times, the great John Entwhistle notwithstanding...
Re: Paul's fingerstyle bass playing
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:57 pm
by JeffZ
I'm a bass player too...I was listening to "Old Brown Shoe" last night. The bass playing on this is outstanding, especially on the bridge, which has some neat machine gun riffing...

Re: Paul's fingerstyle bass playing
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:59 pm
by bottom4
It's oftened discussed that it's George playing bass on OBS
Re: Paul's fingerstyle bass playing
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:33 pm
by JeffZ
Really? I have not heard this before...if true George is a pretty good bass player!
Re: Paul's fingerstyle bass playing
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:17 pm
by tennis_nick
JeffZ wrote:Really? I have not heard this before...if true George is a pretty good bass player!
If you listen to Anthology which I believe has only George on it (overdubbed a few times for the sake of the demo) he plays such a bassline (on a guitar it sounds like though.)
Re: Paul's fingerstyle bass playing
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:21 pm
by sloop_john_b
George on a Bass VI IMO.
Re: Paul's fingerstyle bass playing
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:27 pm
by FretlessOnly
bottom4 wrote:It's oftened discussed that it's George playing bass on OBS
Quoting from Lewisohn,
The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions; entry for Wednesday 16 April 1969: "The song's highly distinctive and impressive bass sound was actually a fine combination of matching lead and bass guitar notes played by George and Paul."
If only the word "respectively" were in there at the end. Anyway, it's implied by this that George played lead guitar and Paul the bass (I mean, wouldn't Lewisohn make a point of saying that George played the bassline, which would have been relatively rare?).
Re: Paul's fingerstyle bass playing
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:15 pm
by JeffZ
I'm familiar with the demo version on the Anathology, and it's a great demo, but the actual single certainly sounds like Paul playing bass.
Re: Paul's fingerstyle bass playing
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:53 pm
by FretlessOnly
I rather thought I provided strong evidence that McCartney did play the bass.
Re: Paul's fingerstyle bass playing
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:52 pm
by rickboy88
Here is another source:
http://oldies.about.com/od/thebeatlesso ... wnshoe.htm
The interesting thing is that it has
McCartney playing the Fender VI. I've read though that he could play the bass "up side down" (strings reversed) as well.
I've also thought that he overdubbed bass in on tracks, even if someone else played it on initial takes.
Re: Paul's fingerstyle bass playing
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:01 am
by iamthebassman
Something new you learn everyday, it pays to pay attention.
Yep, knew all that already, it's my job.
Re: Paul's fingerstyle bass playing
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:11 pm
by JakeK
Ronn, when The Eggmen play the softer songs, do you use your fingers?
Something else I noticed: in the "I Am the Walrus" video, the 4001S' selector switch was pulled up rather than flipped down. That bassline sounds rather trebly, but then again, I don't know if a cap on the horseshoe would sound like that. Maybe both pickups?
Re: Paul's fingerstyle bass playing
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:26 pm
by sloop_john_b
"Walrus" does not sound "trebly" to me at all. The tone there is similar to everything else he was doing during the period (though the song does have fairly understated bass playing, for the era).
Re: Paul's fingerstyle bass playing
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:25 pm
by tennis_nick
JakeK wrote:Ronn, when The Eggmen play the softer songs, do you use your fingers?
Something else I noticed: in the "I Am the Walrus" video, the 4001S' selector switch was pulled up rather than flipped down. That bassline sounds rather trebly, but then again, I don't know if a cap on the horseshoe would sound like that. Maybe both pickups?
videos mean nothing.