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Early Yes Peter Banks & Chris Squire

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:20 pm
by tallpat1
Here is recently discovered footage of early Yes with Peter Banks Playing his RM 1987 I Think ( 330 MG) and Squire's RM1999 which is fireglo so this maybe another rick he owned way back in 1968 when this album was released.

http://yesworld.com/gallery/thelostbroadcasts.html

:D :D

Re: Early Yes Peter Banks & Chris Squire

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:29 pm
by johnallg
Pat, when I clicked on the link All Good People is the default video and it is Steve with no Chris. Which song?

I just saw Survival and that may be the one. That is the FG RM I believe.

Re: Early Yes Peter Banks & Chris Squire

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:30 am
by stevebasshead
I bought the "Lost Broadcasts" DVD last month and it's excellent. The quality is great and Chris is playing like an absolute demon!! He's known for his aggresive technique but it's even more so on the live tracks on the DVD. Highly recommended, treat yourselves to a copy! :mrgreen:

Re: Early Yes Peter Banks & Chris Squire

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:35 pm
by woodyng
thanks for the heads-up/review,steve! i was hedging about whether i would order the dvd,based on the lip-synch video that i had seen.....sounds like i need to whip out the credit card......

Re: Early Yes Peter Banks & Chris Squire

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:05 pm
by tallpat1
Sorry everyone I was refering to the survival video with Peter Banks i am picking up this dvd great early footage of my fav band :D

Re: Early Yes Peter Banks & Chris Squire

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:18 am
by stevebasshead
It's a great DVD, you won't be disappointed. Interesting to see Chris using just the horseshoe towards the end on the different live takes, I don't think I've ever seen him do that before (but someone correct me if I'm wrong).

Re: Early Yes Peter Banks & Chris Squire

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:51 pm
by BAD RONBO, KiLLeR DWaRfS
he may or may not have had the bass wired stereo at this point. but if it was wired stereo, doesn't mean he can't select a certain pickup for a voicing !

Re: Early Yes Peter Banks & Chris Squire

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:13 pm
by weemac
BAD RONBO, KiLLeR DWaRfS wrote:he may or may not have had the bass wired stereo at this point. but if it was wired stereo, doesn't mean he can't select a certain pickup for a voicing !
All true! but I think Stephen was just making a comment that Chris was using the Horse by itself. These days it is either both or the toaster only.
I suspect Chris was still working out what he wanted to hear from the bass....

Eden.

Re: Early Yes Peter Banks & Chris Squire

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:01 pm
by BAD RONBO, KiLLeR DWaRfS
or maybe he knocked the switch over without realizing it the way he pounds away !

Re: Early Yes Peter Banks & Chris Squire

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:59 am
by stevebasshead
weemac wrote:
BAD RONBO, KiLLeR DWaRfS wrote:he may or may not have had the bass wired stereo at this point. but if it was wired stereo, doesn't mean he can't select a certain pickup for a voicing !
All true! but I think Stephen was just making a comment that Chris was using the Horse by itself. These days it is either both or the toaster only.
I suspect Chris was still working out what he wanted to hear from the bass....

Eden.
Yep, rare to see him using the Horseshoe by itself is what I was trying to say, which makes this footage/dvd pretty unique. I'm sure Ron's right, he'll have selected that pickup deliberately for the voicing (he couldn't have mistakenly done it, it's such a different sound) but it's not something you hear from Chris every day.

If I might derail the thread slightly, does anyone know of any songs (or sections of song) where Chris used only the Horseshoe? As a Yes fan I probably should have picked up on this myself but I can't bring any to mind.

Re: Early Yes Peter Banks & Chris Squire

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:57 pm
by BAD RONBO, KiLLeR DWaRfS
hard subject to figure out. we get reports from people who worked on the bass saying that the horseshoe was completely disconnected from the circuit ??? i cannot believe this as he uses his bass in stereo. having said that...when it was supposedly disconnected would be for the person who did it and when to come forward. i think this is lost to history. now, if you listen to "the ritual" on yesshows, the bass solo spot sounds too agressive and sharp to be the neck pickup...also some work on relayer has the same edge without the trademark hollowness the neck pickup creates. i'm speculating all this, of course. only squire could tell you, but then that was a long time ago and memories alter a bit from fact to fiction by happenstance.

myself, i like digging in and crunching with the rear pickup, then going neck to do subtle or bass pedal type tones. never do i use both pickups together as i'm not in stereo, and with the cap bypassed, it produces the nasal tones similar to a jazz bass a la john paul jones/zepplin or the guns n' roses bass tone that i'm not into. great for disco, though !!!!!! lol.

Re: Early Yes Peter Banks & Chris Squire

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:02 pm
by weemac
This twit demonstrates the tones from the RM basses, it could be worked out from here...

Eden.

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Re: Early Yes Peter Banks & Chris Squire

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:29 pm
by BAD RONBO, KiLLeR DWaRfS
that man is a foreigner !!!!!!!!!!! lol. thanx wee for the demo. my DK neck p/u sounds just like yours only a '73. picture was a little fuzzy, but the main thing was the audio tones. love that hollow sound from the neck.

Re: Early Yes Peter Banks & Chris Squire

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:53 pm
by walker
On the subject of CS using his RM in stereo - I've heard this claim before, and always thought it odd since the RMs were originally mono with the one jack. When did he do the modification?

Re: Early Yes Peter Banks & Chris Squire

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:22 am
by johnallg
Very early on, Mark. I don't think we have an exact or loose date.