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Van Halen & Cheap Trick
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:08 am
by route66guitars
More celebrity instruments. These are ones we sold to the artist, and the information provided is taken from the original invoices.
Mike Anthony (Van Halen)
1957 4000 Natural #B7102 (Third 4000 bass built.)
4005-6 (6 string bass. Double Bound) JetGlo #GF3823 (Left the factory and sold to Mike in March 1990. Unsold Stock from John Hall’s Collection.Serial numbers on instruments from this collection represent the era they were started, but should not be used to determine month and year of manufacture.)
4005 Azure Blue #NL7442
Tom Petersson (Cheap Trick)
4001S/8 Prototype JetGlo #blank (Left the factory and sold to Tom in April 1990. Unsold Stock from John Hall’s Collection. This was the first 8 string solid body Rickenbacker bass. It has a mono jack plate with no serial number. At the time we determined that it dated to some time in 1974. Dot inlay. Bound fingerboard.)
355/12JL John Lennon Limited Edition JetGlo #E37685 (June 1990)
Transonic TS100 #144 (Unsold Stock from John Hall’s Collection. Sold to Tom in April 1994.)
Transonic TS101 #363 (Unsold Stock from John Hall’s Collection. Sold to Tom in April 1994.)
Transonic TS120 #464 (Unsold Stock from John Hall’s Collection. Sold to Tom in April 1994.)
Tom also bought one of the unsold stock 4005-8 string models, and the band bought nearly a dozen of the Transonic 200s from us, but I haven’t found the invoices on those, so I don’t have serial numbers yet.
Re: Van Halen & Cheap Trick
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:31 am
by weemac
I believe that Tom still uses a 4000 in the studio (along with his P basses and thunderbird)
Live of course he will be seen with Waterstones....
Eden.
Re: Van Halen & Cheap Trick
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:06 am
by route66guitars
weemac wrote:I believe that Tom still uses a 4000 in the studio (along with his P basses and thunderbird)
Live of course he will be seen with Waterstones....
Eden.
Tom’s got a really nice bass collection, as you’d expect. We sold him the Hofner he used on Can’t Stop Falling In Love, and a beautiful 1969 Fender pink Paisley Telecaster Bass, among other non-Rickenbackers. I did a lot of business with Cheap Trick in the ‘80s and ‘90s. I haven’t talked with Tom in a while, so I don’t know what he’s recording with these days...
Re: Van Halen & Cheap Trick
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:37 am
by ken_j
Scott, as I recall we discussed Michael Anthony's 4000 when you were posting a few years back. I have a copy of a magazine article about this bass with the same pic taken by Jeff Veitch. I am happy to see you are back with us here on the forum.
Re: Van Halen & Cheap Trick
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:55 pm
by route66guitars
ken_j wrote:Scott, as I recall we discussed Michael Anthony's 4000 when you were posting a few years back. I have a copy of a magazine article about this bass with the same pic taken by Jeff Veitch. I am happy to see you are back with us here on the forum.
Thanks.
I’ve been trying to get Jeffrey to allow me to market his images for posters, etc. He’s consistently turned me down, but I haven’t given up. That’s what I get for letting him keep the copyright on the images he shot for us.

Re: Van Halen & Cheap Trick
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:50 pm
by jps
route66guitars wrote:I’ve been trying to get Jeffrey to allow me to market his images for posters, etc. He’s consistently turned me down, but I haven’t given up. That’s what I get for letting him keep the copyright on the images he shot for us.

Unless Jeff's photographs were done as "work for hire", then he automatically
is the © holder, legally.
Re: Van Halen & Cheap Trick
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:23 am
by route66guitars
jps wrote:route66guitars wrote:I’ve been trying to get Jeffrey to allow me to market his images for posters, etc. He’s consistently turned me down, but I haven’t given up. That’s what I get for letting him keep the copyright on the images he shot for us.

Unless Jeff's photographs were done as "work for hire", then he automatically
is the © holder, legally.
Because of our situation it was a little more complicated than that. He was a store employee at the time, and created the images during business hours for which he was paid his salary. We mutually agreed that he would hold the copyright, otherwise they would have belonged to me as owner of the business.
I own the copyright on many other images that were produced for books, magazines and auction catalogs. Those were all very definite cases where they were works for hire and licensed for one time use.
Re: Van Halen & Cheap Trick
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:36 am
by sloop_john_b
route66guitars wrote:
4005-6 (6 string bass. Double Bound) JetGlo #GF3823 (Left the factory and sold to Mike in March 1990. Unsold Stock from John Hall’s Collection.Serial numbers on instruments from this collection represent the era they were started, but should not be used to determine month and year of manufacture.)
Picture please.

Re: Van Halen & Cheap Trick
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:00 pm
by route66guitars
sloop_john_b wrote:route66guitars wrote:
4005-6 (6 string bass. Double Bound) JetGlo #GF3823 (Left the factory and sold to Mike in March 1990. Unsold Stock from John Hall’s Collection.Serial numbers on instruments from this collection represent the era they were started, but should not be used to determine month and year of manufacture.)
Picture please.

I don’t know that I have a photo of that bass. Mike picked it up within a day or so of my picking it up from the factory. I’m currently going through the archives and have found transparencies of some of the other instruments. I’ll be doing something with those pics once I get them cleaned up for publication (book, calendar, etc…)
Re: Van Halen & Cheap Trick
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:31 pm
by jps
route66guitars wrote:jps wrote:route66guitars wrote:I’ve been trying to get Jeffrey to allow me to market his images for posters, etc. He’s consistently turned me down, but I haven’t given up. That’s what I get for letting him keep the copyright on the images he shot for us.

Unless Jeff's photographs were done as "work for hire", then he automatically
is the © holder, legally.
Because of our situation it was a little more complicated than that. He was a store employee at the time, and created the images during business hours for which he was paid his salary. We mutually agreed that he would hold the copyright, otherwise they would have belonged to me as owner of the business.
I own the copyright on many other images that were produced for books, magazines and auction catalogs. Those were all very definite cases where they were works for hire and licensed for one time use.
Given your explanation it seems you are the © holder.

Re: Van Halen & Cheap Trick
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:31 pm
by route66guitars
I suppose I could litigate over a verbal agreement, except for a few things:
1) He’s one of my best friends,
2) He, and the negatives, are now in the UK, while I am in the US,
3) We had a deal, and I don’t try to get out of old agreements to make a few bucks. It’s a reputation thing...
Re: Van Halen & Cheap Trick
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:36 pm
by jps
I wasn't implying that you could do whatever you wanted. Of course, among friends there is far more than the law to consider. It is surprising that he is not interested in doing posters, however.

Re: Van Halen & Cheap Trick
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:32 pm
by route66guitars
Re: Van Halen & Cheap Trick
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:40 pm
by route66guitars
One of the 4005-8 basses from the factory 'found' collection. We sold it to Tom Petersson.


Re: Van Halen & Cheap Trick
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:49 am
by collin
route66guitars wrote:

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hmm, that's pretty wild---they simply took a six string guitar bridge baseplate and strung it up for bass. I assume the serial number was standard-issue then, right?