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I thought Sir Paul's bridge pickup didn't work in 75/76?

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:30 pm
by jamespaul71
I just noticed something, the harmonic makeup of the tone in silly love songs is clearly a bridge pickup. I thought that prior to getting the pickup replaced (which would have been after the album was recorded) the bridge was dead? Any ideas?

Re: I thought Sir Paul's bridge pickup didn't work in 75/76?

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:14 pm
by jamespaul71
Here is the proof:

Here is the 5th fret on the D string:
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At left is Paul, in the middle is me with bridge full tone and solo, and last is me with the neck full tone and solo.


It is quite clear that the tone is a rickenbacker, that it is from the bridge pickup, and that it sounds great. Now, back to the question!

Re: I thought Sir Paul's bridge pickup didn't work in 75/76?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:00 am
by jamespaul71
I just noticed that unless the window is very wide the screenshot won't display properly, please just right click and view image or drag it into a new browser window to see it fully.

Re: I thought Sir Paul's bridge pickup didn't work in 75/76?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:28 am
by sloop_john_b
I believe Paul's bass was at Electro for repair in August '75, at the start of the Wings Over America tour. "Silly Love Songs" was released in April 1976. That bass tone is pure bridge position higain. 8)

Re: I thought Sir Paul's bridge pickup didn't work in 75/76?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:43 am
by antipodean
sloop_john_b wrote:I believe Paul's bass was at Electro for repair in August '75, at the start of the Wings Over America tour. "Silly Love Songs" was released in April 1976. That bass tone is pure bridge position higain. 8)
Without the cap....

Re: I thought Sir Paul's bridge pickup didn't work in 75/76?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:52 am
by BAD RONBO, KiLLeR DWaRfS
did mr. "sir" use roundwounds or flats 0n the 4001s in the day ? silly love songs tone is sort of a muffled sound almost as if he was using the mute in the tail piece. anybody know for certain on the string choice ?

Re: I thought Sir Paul's bridge pickup didn't work in 75/76?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:12 am
by teeder
Long Shiny Flats

Re: I thought Sir Paul's bridge pickup didn't work in 75/76?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:29 am
by jps
teeder wrote:Long Shiny Flats
At this point it should be Long Shiny FlatsĀ® :lol:

Re: I thought Sir Paul's bridge pickup didn't work in 75/76?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:05 am
by ken_j
According to Mark Arnquist: "The P.M. bass came back to the factory prior to the 'Wings over America tour.' " Link: http://www.thecanteen.com/arnquist.html

Re: I thought Sir Paul's bridge pickup didn't work in 75/76?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:46 am
by rickaddict
It's so cool to have that story documented!

Re: I thought Sir Paul's bridge pickup didn't work in 75/76?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:21 am
by ricaddic
I nail that sound on my 4001C64, with the bridge pick 3/4 of the way up and the neck pick up alittle less than 1/4 on, the tone on the bridge pick up off and the tone on the neck less than 1/4 on however I also nail that sound on my Fender 60th anniversary jazz bass which has and came with stock the 62 jazz bass pick ups I use the bridge pick up with the tone just a crack on and the neck pickup and tone just a crack on, I use Thomastik J344 flats on both basses.

Re: I thought Sir Paul's bridge pickup didn't work in 75/76?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:31 pm
by maplered
antipodean wrote:
sloop_john_b wrote:I believe Paul's bass was at Electro for repair in August '75, at the start of the Wings Over America tour. "Silly Love Songs" was released in April 1976. That bass tone is pure bridge position higain. 8)
Without the cap....
It sounds like it has the cap. It's definitely a thinner sound.

Re: I thought Sir Paul's bridge pickup didn't work in 75/76?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:26 pm
by jayfbv
I was under the impression that he had a backup to the one he carved up. I can't produce a picture of it, but I know I've seen one.

Re: I thought Sir Paul's bridge pickup didn't work in 75/76?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:43 pm
by jamespaul71
sloop_john_b wrote:I believe Paul's bass was at Electro for repair in August '75, at the start of the Wings Over America tour. "Silly Love Songs" was released in April 1976. That bass tone is pure bridge position higain. 8)
Ah, I thought the repair was post-album pre-tour. Thanks for the answer guys!

Re: I thought Sir Paul's bridge pickup didn't work in 75/76?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:16 pm
by cassius987
jamespaul71 wrote:Here is the proof:

Here is the 5th fret on the D string:
Image

At left is Paul, in the middle is me with bridge full tone and solo, and last is me with the neck full tone and solo.
Would be more beneficial as an overlay of all three with different colors, but I know unless you have access to the raw data that made the spectra it could be hard to generate.