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Console 708 Wiring & Serial Numbers

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:36 am
by cjj
I recently took a look inside my Model 708 Console Steel in order to try to figure out when it might have been made. While I was in there, I traced out the schematic for the wiring:
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I found it interesting that the two knobs by each pickup are not separate volume and tone for that pickup. Instead, the "far" knob for each pickup is that pickup's individual volume control, while the near knob on the far neck is a master volume, the near knob on the near neck is the tone control.

Here's the knob/switch/pickup arrangement:
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Anyway, the pots have date codes from 2nd week of 1958. I have a sales receipt from March of 1960, so I know this instrument was made somewhere between those two dates.

The serial number is a bit strange though:
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Does anyone know if this should be "2D" or "D2"? Or should it be something else entirely? I've heard serial numbers from the 50s are somewhat difficult, if not impossible to decode as to manufacturing date, but if anyone has any ideas, please let me know...

Re: Console 708 Wiring & Serial Numbers

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:56 am
by rshatz
Sorry, I can't help with the S/n, but that is that is the most beautiful Rick console I've ever seen.

Re: Console 708 Wiring & Serial Numbers

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:40 pm
by cjj
rshatz wrote:Sorry, I can't help with the S/n, but that is that is the most beautiful Rick console I've ever seen.
Thanks! :mrgreen: I actually bought it primarily because of the wood (what can I say, I'm a certified grain & flame freak :oops: ), and secondarily because I've always liked the sound of 'em and thought it might be fun to learn how to play.

Here's another picture, for your viewing pleasure:
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Re: Console 708 Wiring & Serial Numbers

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:43 am
by cjj
rshatz wrote:Sorry, I can't help with the S/n, but that is that is the most beautiful Rick console I've ever seen.
Just in case anyone is interested, there's one up on ebay right now that looks like a twin of mine. They have it listed as a 208, but since it's got 2 knobs for each pickup, I'm pretty sure it's a 708. Nice figuring on the wood too:
http://cgi.ebay.com/1950s-steel-console ... _500wt_896
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Re: Console 708 Wiring & Serial Numbers

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:32 pm
by jingle_jangle
Stunning, CJ. 208 vs. 708 would be an issue of scale length, with the 208 being short scale. I believe. Anyway, it looks like a long scale to me.

Re: Console 708 Wiring & Serial Numbers

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:41 pm
by cjj
Mine's definitely a 708, 25" scale. In the RIC literature archive, 1957 catalog, the 700 series are shown with 2 knobs per pickup, while the 200 & 500 have only 1 knob. Of course, Rickenbacker is known to change things, so yeah, scale length is probably the only way to really know.

Back to the subject of wiring, I wonder what the setup would be for a 3 neck 700 series?