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fb finish

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:14 pm
by rickomania1970
hi!
hope all rickobros are allways fine :)
i want ask some questions:
which material is using by rickenbacker for fretboard finish?
i know that this material is conversion varnish.is it right?
thanks for replies!

Re: fb finish

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:39 am
by RIC_FACTORY
We stopped using conversion varnish completely earlier this year. The new coating is a UV curable polyester.

Re: fb finish

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:56 am
by paologregorio
I love the UV! Love the way it dries crystal clear without the "white" hit the grain. It really allows the grain to show through nicely. :)

Re: fb finish

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:42 pm
by cheyenne
Interesting. I did not know that. :?

Is the new polyester still subject to "finish checking" due to extreme temperature change ? Maybe not as bad?

Re: fb finish

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:51 pm
by Grey
cheyenne wrote:Interesting. I did not know that. :?

Is the new polyester still subject to "finish checking" due to extreme temperature change ? Maybe not as bad?
From what I understand Polyester is basically bulletproof. It dosen't "age" at all, but is also much harder to repair if it gets damaged. Epiphone finishes their guitars in it and most people hate it for the aforementioned reasons, but it seems perfectly suited to use on the fretboard.

Re: fb finish

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:04 pm
by gearhed289
RIC_FACTORY wrote:We stopped using conversion varnish completely earlier this year. The new coating is a UV curable polyester.
:shock: :shock: :shock:

Interesting. Thanks for the info.

Re: fb finish

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:14 pm
by RIC_FACTORY
Polyester is harder than conversion varnish and is more resistant to checking and scratches. It is a much glossier finish than the varnish as well.

Repairs are actually easier and faster to perform if you can cure the polyester via UV lights. With the conversion varnish, we would have to wait a few days for the refinished area to dry before we could sand it. With a UV coating, you can do your repair, then cure it in a UV cabinet and be done with it in a matter of minutes.

Re: fb finish

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:59 pm
by cassius987
A layperson cannot tell the difference I suspect--I just got a recent 2010 Mapleglo body (warranty replacement on my January 2009 MG*) and I had no idea there was any difference by look or feel. Although the finish doesn't seem as "grabby" on the back of the neck but maybe I'm just used to finished necks. Anyways it sounds friggin' great; if you had never told me it was poly I wouldn't have known any better. Which teaches me (once again) not to judge a book by its cover, I had developed a bias against poly based on what others had said. Really, this looks just like any other Ric I've seen, down to the beautiful fingerboard details--light yellow filler, swirly grain, nice gloss. So if it's a more practical finish that's great because I don't think it affects the customer in any negative way, not even appearing or feeling different let alone sounding different.


*The neck was so thick it kept the truss rods from working. 2010 two-piece neck is very nice.

Re: fb finish

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:37 pm
by rickomania1970
i am honored to read the reply of the RIC_FACTORY :roll:
thanks for responce Sir Hall.
a friend has a fretboardwork so may i learn which frets are using by RIC?