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probably asked one thousand times or more but . . .
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:18 pm
by Prowl
will a toaster fit in my 96 4003 without having to route the hole out?
Re: probably asked one thousand times or more but . . .
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:24 pm
by antipodean
Yep - same footprint as the higain! Just make sure you get the bass version rather than the guitar version as the guitar mounting holes are untapped.
Re: probably asked one thousand times or more but . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:53 am
by Prowl
Ok cool, but here's a better question, will it fit in the 1/2" position like a 4001 reissue?
Re: probably asked one thousand times or more but . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:59 am
by VRICKY63
It will fit anywhere your high gain is.
Re: probably asked one thousand times or more but . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:35 am
by weemac
Sometimes you will need to route under the pickup to allow the Alnico poles of the Toaster to sit (They are a bit deeper than the Hi-Gain)
However if you use the method of cutting the rubber adjustment gromets in half to get the pickup as high as it will go, you may then not have to remove any wood from underneath the pickup.
If you get a Higain too close to the strings it will distort and fart a bit. Toasters thrive being as close to the strings as you dare and they get richer and warmer...
Eden.
Re: probably asked one thousand times or more but . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:14 am
by antipodean
I haven't had the problem Eden mentions but there is a bit of variance in cavity depth in pre CNC Ricks (both pickup cavity and control cavity) so I guess it's not surprising. Apologies....

Re: probably asked one thousand times or more but . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:29 am
by ram
Just put a new Toaster in my 1/2 inch '74 4001. No problems depth problems at all... it just dropped right in. And man does it sound good!

Re: probably asked one thousand times or more but . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:23 am
by Prowl
well I obviously have a hi-gain in there now, but I never looked at the cavity. I'm just going from the experience I had in trying to fit one in my 83 4003 and my 4003s. It wasn't having it in 83 bass and the 4003s needed wood removed to fit it in 1/2"spacing. So i'm curious if anyone has done a 1/2" spacing toaster install on a year similar to mine
Re: probably asked one thousand times or more but . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:54 pm
by johnallg
In your '96, a toaster will fit in the 1" spot, but you'll need to remove wood to put it at 1/2".
Re: probably asked one thousand times or more but . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:36 pm
by Prowl
Thanks John thats what I thought. I had a feeling that would be the case. Looks like I'll be on the market for toaster now.
Re: probably asked one thousand times or more but . . .
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:17 pm
by FretlessOnly
http://www.rickenbacker.com/cart.asp?category=Pickups
Make sure you get item #00031. I had my luthier cut the grommets in half and grind down the casing screws so the toaster sits up as high as possible. I think you'll love it. Don't expect a huge difference in sound, but you should get a decent dose of clarity and warmth.
Re: probably asked one thousand times or more but . . .
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:04 am
by Prowl
Wwell like I said before, i had one in an 80's 4003s and I liked it. For some reason it over powered the HS pickup as well, even with the cap removed