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325 C58 Question

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:43 pm
by iamltjbukem
Hey there!

I am trying my hardest to sell a Les Paul to get one of these and just have a question......

Anybody out there play anything like hard rock on these? What do they sound like?

Just curious.....

Jeff

Re: 325 C58 Question

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:08 am
by kiramdear
They're like nothing else around. They sound like Lennon's work on their first album, for example, kind of plunky and not real big on sustain. I'd advise you to play one (yeah, i know that can be difficult) before you commit. The short scale is not everyone's cup of tea.

Re: 325 C58 Question

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:09 pm
by iamltjbukem
Thanks for the reply.....

I had a V59 in the early 90's but got rid of it quickly as it wouldn't tune at all.....the short scale didn't bother me at all.....I had no idea about using heavy gauge strings on it! I put from what I remember I think I put 9's on it so it was pretty useless!!!!! Lucky for me the shop took it back and that was the end of that. But I have always wanted one and since the internet has come I have learned soooo much more about this model. Now I have to sell my Les Paul to get back in the game......o wanna buy it? LOL

Re: 325 C58 Question

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:16 pm
by kiramdear
I use 12s on my v59, with a bowtie bridge, and it tunes and intones perfectly. I think the v59 is a better choice if you plan to play contemporary music on it. Pickups are hotter and sustain is better. But don't let that discourage you if your heart is set ... :)

Re: 325 C58 Question

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:28 pm
by jingle_jangle
It ain't a metal/rock hard geetar, but it can make some noise!

Re: 325 C58 Question

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:59 pm
by iamltjbukem
No my heart isn't set on a 58 really......just a 320/325 works for me.....JG or MG....Bigsby works too!!!! There has to be someone out there that is dying to trade for a sweet Custom Shop Les Paul.......hint hint!

Re: 325 C58 Question

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:50 am
by kiramdear
320s from the 1980s can be had for much less than the C and V series models, and they are seriously sweet players with hi-gain pickups of the era, perfectly great hard rockers.. Keep your eye on ebay. You can add your own Bigsby, of course. 8) Good luck; it will be worth the wait. :wink:

Re: 325 C58 Question

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:48 pm
by tracy
They won't stay in tune with slinky strings. 11's at a minimum. I use 13 flats for a really thick sound. Not for everybody. If you're a shredder, stick with the Les Paul, although a Rick 230 is a competitive instrument you might want to try.

Re: 325 C58 Question

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:41 am
by iamltjbukem
Yea I love to shread too but have mellowed over the years....LOL besides I still have my souped up beat up Strat for that! Loved the Les Paul to death but it wasn't everything to me.......this is my 54th or 55th guitar and I keep coming back to Rickenbackers......so that must tell you something!

I have 11's on it now but may move up one to keep the tuning in check.....also have a Bowtie coming too.....

Re: 325 C58 Question

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:48 pm
by tracy
Never thought of the bowtie as an upgrade. It'll be curious to hear how yours works out!

Re: 325 C58 Question

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:10 pm
by treewalker
A bowtie is pretty primitive compared to the factory issue bridge in my opinion.

Re: 325 C58 Question

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:19 pm
by kiramdear
treewalker wrote:A bowtie is pretty primitive compared to the factory issue bridge in my opinion.
I wouldn't call it primitive, but rather just simple. Like an acoustic guitar bridge is simple, with nothing to rattle or go out of adjustment, and that's a good thing in my book. It provides solid, direct transmission of vibrations to the top. The only reason not to use one is if the intonation is a problem with your chosen set of strings, as there's no easy adjustment. I get perfect intonation from mine on my V59 and .012 gauge strings.

Re: 325 C58 Question

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:04 pm
by fabgear
I'm on a lunchbreak on my cell, so I can't look for it and link you but if you search, you'll find examples of the tune-o-matic bowties I've made.... A great alternative to a stock bowtie while still retaining the look.