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R Tailpiece question.

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:56 pm
by fireglo67
I know this topic has been touched on in other threads, but I couldn't find a definitive official answer.
A relative of mine has a 360/12 Tuxedo, but the R tailpiece has just broke, so he's asked me to look into this for him.
So....
If one is in posession of a broken black R tailpiece, what is the deal with getting a replacement?
I saw it mentioned somewhere that you have to send back the broken one (fair enough) but that you also need to send $165.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it isn't it down to part of the manufacturing process that causes a weakness in the tailpiece? If so, then I think its unfair and mean to charge the customer so much money to replace something that obviously isn't fit for the purpose it was made.
Also, is the replacement R-tailpiece chrome?
If so then isn't that just going to make your lovely White Rickenbacker Tuxedo with all black hardware look wrong?

Many thanks in advance.

Re: R Tailpiece question.

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:19 pm
by winston
My suggestion is that you have your relative contact Rickenbacker customer service. They will have the definitive answer.

Re: R Tailpiece question.

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:49 pm
by sloop_john_b
winston wrote:My suggestion is that you have your relative contact Rickenbacker customer service. They will have the definitive answer.
And after that, I would suggest one of these: http://winfieldvintage.com/parts/trapeze.html

Re: R Tailpiece question.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:56 am
by brunfox
I second sloop John B's advice. I replaced a chrome R with a winfield harp...glad I did. great to deal with too.

Re: R Tailpiece question.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:03 am
by fireglo67
OK I will contact Rickenbacker direct and find out what their official line is on this, and then post it on here for future reference.
With this being such a common problem it would be good to let people know where they stand.

Re: R Tailpiece question.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:00 am
by brunfox
The "R" tailpiece looks very lovely, but is not the best tailpiece to string up. The Harp from Winfield Vintage is a dream to string, fits right in, is well designed and looks good on, plus very practical. Additionally, I got piece of mind with the stainless steel integrity eventhough I have read that RIC have improved the material of the 'new' "R" tailpiece.

Re: R Tailpiece question.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:24 am
by jingle_jangle
It takes a bit of a learning curve to string up an "R" tailpiece, but it's no big deal. I do a few every week, on average, and find them to be much easier than trapezes to string up. There are a number of threads on this and other forums giving tips and procedures for getting an "R" strung up without getting yourself strung out. Two hints: masking tape on the bracket and a scrap of cloth underneath
the "R", and string up both "E"s first to hold the tailpiece in balanced tension away from the guitars surface finish.

When my black 12-string "R" broke a few months back, I exchanged it for a chrome, and prepped and painted the chrome tailpiece as a spare, and located a stock black 12 string tailpiece as well. I put the original replacement back on the guitar, and kept the newly-painted "R" as a spare. I vote for originality; to me the harp thingy looks cheap, although his early 400 and 4000 tailpieces look nice.