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4005 Tuner Restoration?
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:37 pm
by LenMinNJ
My '68 4005FG has a set of replacement Schaller tuners with the Schaller logo. The string post on the new tuners are larger than the original Rick tuners (which I have), so I guess the previous owner had the post holes enlarged.
http://www.core-sound.com/Rick4005/DSCN0326.JPG
http://www.core-sound.com/Rick4005/DSCN0328.JPG
Anyone have suggestions about whether I should bother restoring the old tuners, or should I just leave things the way they are?
Len M.
Re: 4005 Tuner Restoration?
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 12:38 am
by jps
My '67 4005WB had Schaller M4S tuners on it for a while until I swapped them out for Hipshot Ultralite tuners with 11/16" post, these tuners are much lighter in weight and feel excellent. I do have a NOS '60s keys that will go on the bass some day when I finally get around to restoring it. But for now the Hipshots are just fine and save the headstock a lot of weight.
Keep the Schallers on your bass, they are fine.
Re: 4005 Tuner Restoration?
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 1:31 pm
by aceonbass
If you dowel and redrill the tuner post holes to the correct size, you can use the original tuners. Depending on the size of the tuner bushings, the work may or may not be hidden by the bushing. Current replacement C64 tuners are a good choice, but you'll need to use larger bushings such as the current bushings on 4003 tuners.
Re: 4005 Tuner Restoration?
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:48 pm
by LenMinNJ
In terms of value to collectors, do you think it makes sense to restore the original tuners, or should I just provide them with the bass when it's eventually sold?
I guess what I'm asking is: if I restore it, will its sale value increase more than the cost of the restoration?
Anyone know?
Thanks!
Re: 4005 Tuner Restoration?
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:17 pm
by rickaddict
Ouch! I would guess that the money spent to dowel, re-drill, and partially refinish the headstock wouldn't payoff if you're looking to maximize your return on investment.
It has good tuners on it now, my vote is to leave it as is.
Re: 4005 Tuner Restoration?
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:10 pm
by Ivan3000
They look fine, and standard to Rick tuners at the time. Keep 'em!
Re: 4005 Tuner Restoration?
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:32 pm
by LenMinNJ
Thanks much for your opinions! For now I'll leave it as it is.
Re: 4005 Tuner Restoration?
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:02 am
by iiipopes
My 4002 has original factory mini-Schallers that also say Schaller on them. So unless it has neck dive so bad you can't stand it, I'd leave them be.
Re: 4005 Tuner Restoration?
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:08 pm
by aceonbass
While the Schaller tuners on this bass are great tuners, I believe they affect the value of the bass by more than the cost of restoring the original parts. As long as big enough tuner bushongs are used, the work will be hidden, and no refinishing will have to be done on the headstock.
Re: 4005 Tuner Restoration?
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:52 pm
by mhalstead
My '66 4005 has large Shaller type tuners on it from the factory. Did they go to something smaller in '67 or '68?
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Re: 4005 Tuner Restoration?
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:24 pm
by ken_j
mhalstead wrote:My '66 4005 has large Shaller type tuners on it from the factory. Did they go to something smaller in '67 or '68?
It is the string posts that are smaller on the originals.
