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Looking for a 450 wiring schematic or control cavity photos

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:51 am
by bobbyemmett
Hey folks, does anybody have a 450 schematic or photos of their 450 control cavity? I just purchased a 450 and I don't think it's wired correctly. I'll post pics later today.

THANKS!

Re: Looking for a 450 wiring schematic or control cavity photos

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:41 pm
by bobbyemmett
here's a photo of the electronics in my 65, doesn't seem right, and one knob does nothing...

Re: Looking for a 450 wiring schematic or control cavity photos

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:46 pm
by bobbyemmett
schematic won't post

Re: Looking for a 450 wiring schematic or control cavity photos

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:57 pm
by libratune
This schematic is from the RIC website. It is for a 2-PU, 4 control harness with a 3-way switch. It should be close to what you are looking for:

http://www.rickenbacker.com/pdfs/19501.pdf

Re: Looking for a 450 wiring schematic or control cavity photos

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:50 pm
by ubdrum
here are some photos from the innards of both my 67 450 and 66 450-12 ... ignore if you can the routing someone did on the 450 in a failed attempt to add a middle pickup (gasp) ...
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rick 450-12 (16).jpg
rick 450-12 (17).jpg

Re: Looking for a 450 wiring schematic or control cavity photos

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:01 pm
by jps
ubdrum wrote:... ignore if you can the routing someone did on the 450 in a failed attempt to add a middle pickup (gasp) ...
Uh, that's pretty hard to ignore! :shock:

Re: Looking for a 450 wiring schematic or control cavity photos

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:24 pm
by ubdrum
yeah it's bad ... thankfully the butcher mangled that and the pickguard but stopped short of destroying the electronics. I can replace the pickguard (and will) and the remaining damage will be hidden.

Hope these are of some use Bob.

Re: Looking for a 450 wiring schematic or control cavity photos

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:25 pm
by jps
At least he tried to be faithful to vintage Rickenbackers by using a forstner bit.

Re: Looking for a 450 wiring schematic or control cavity photos

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:34 pm
by doctorwho
Here's the wiring on my 1999 450v63 JG:
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Note the use of modern-era orange caps.

I don't have a corresponding picture for my 1981 460 BG, else I'd post it, too. :(

Re: Looking for a 450 wiring schematic or control cavity photos

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:41 am
by bobbyemmett
steven/gary

thanks for the pics!

steven - why is there an extra cap wired in to your guitar that's not the .047 's on the schematic ? it's the little turquoise one underneath the .047's..

gary- how do you like those caps in your guitar? this is the first rickenbacker i've owned, it obviously needs a set of .047 caps.. i don't care about getting a pair of ajax blue molded .047s right now (unless they sound the best) ..have you had any luck with any caps in particular?

Re: Looking for a 450 wiring schematic or control cavity photos

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:01 pm
by Ivan3000
I like for the 450, that all you have to do is take off the pickguard, and you've got full access to the guitar without the risk of damaging electronics.

Re: Looking for a 450 wiring schematic or control cavity photos

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:56 pm
by doctorwho
bobbyemmett wrote:... gary- how do you like those caps in your guitar? ...
I like them just fine! The 450v63 JG with its reissue toasters has a great jangly sound to it, more so than my 460 BG with its high-gains (although it, too, can be very jangly!).

Re: Looking for a 450 wiring schematic or control cavity photos

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:24 am
by bobbyemmett
ubdrum - what is that extra turquoise cap in the circuit for (the one under the .047s) ? i've seen that on a few 450's, but it's not in the schematic..

Re: Looking for a 450 wiring schematic or control cavity photos

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:33 am
by jdogric12
IvanMunoz wrote:I like for the 450, that all you have to do is take off the pickguard, and you've got full access to the guitar without the risk of damaging electronics.
But you have to remove the strings! :(

Re: Looking for a 450 wiring schematic or control cavity photos

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:41 pm
by bobbyemmett
anyone with an actual answer to the question?