4003 TRC - I smell something fishy
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4003 TRC - I smell something fishy
Look what's just popped up on UK ebay:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RICKENBACKER- ... 0689907116
Of course, if it's a genuine Rick TRC he's on dodgy ground anyway, but I have serious doubts about its authenticity.
For starters, his story doesn't make any sense. "Bought a new 4003, but its TRC didn't match its pickguard." ...WHAT??? And how did he "get it replaced from the dealers" without doing a proper TRC exchange?
Mostly, though, it's the look of the thing. Admittedly it's not the clearest picture on earth, but it looks like a wrong'un to me:
1. The Word "Rickenbacker" appears to be sloping upward, so the top of the 'k" is right up against the top edge.
2. The "MADE IN USA" looks like it's at a funny angle too.
3. I swear those letters aren't raised, just printed flat.
4. I've had the big version of the picture enhanced every whichway in Photoshop, and for the life of me I can't see any screw-holes in it!
Waddaya think, folks?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RICKENBACKER- ... 0689907116
Of course, if it's a genuine Rick TRC he's on dodgy ground anyway, but I have serious doubts about its authenticity.
For starters, his story doesn't make any sense. "Bought a new 4003, but its TRC didn't match its pickguard." ...WHAT??? And how did he "get it replaced from the dealers" without doing a proper TRC exchange?
Mostly, though, it's the look of the thing. Admittedly it's not the clearest picture on earth, but it looks like a wrong'un to me:
1. The Word "Rickenbacker" appears to be sloping upward, so the top of the 'k" is right up against the top edge.
2. The "MADE IN USA" looks like it's at a funny angle too.
3. I swear those letters aren't raised, just printed flat.
4. I've had the big version of the picture enhanced every whichway in Photoshop, and for the life of me I can't see any screw-holes in it!
Waddaya think, folks?
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Re: 4003 TRC - I smell something fishy
Simple, its a fake!
Eden.
Eden.
Re: 4003 TRC - I smell something fishy
+1.weemac wrote:Simple, its a fake!
Eden.
Not Eden (he's real)
Re: 4003 TRC - I smell something fishy
It has no screw holes. (edit: sorry, you mentioned that already
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Re: 4003 TRC - I smell something fishy
These are the self stick on types that have a peel back protective layer on the back of the TRC. 
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Re: 4003 TRC - I smell something fishy
I noticed the absent screw holes and the off centeredness of the lettering. But then again it does state that it is for a Rickenbacker 403. Maybe that is common on those. I never seen one to compare to though, must be rare 
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76' 3000 MG ---09' 4003 MG
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Re: 4003 TRC - I smell something fishy
One of the keys to look for is the presence of a little "serif" at the bottoms of each letter as it meets the underline. "Serif" are little feet and caps on some styles of fonts. You've probably heard of "sans serif" fonts which don't have these feet and caps; Helvetica is a principal sans serif font. Anyway, the genuine TRC logos have a hint of serif "feet" on each letter. Your example has none. Fake.
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Re: 4003 TRC - I smell something fishy
Just a quick glance tells me that it's fake. No analysis required. 
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Re: 4003 TRC - I smell something fishy
Thanks chaps. Duly reported to ebay and to RIC.
2004 4003 JetGlo
Epiphone Jack Casady
Ovation Magnum 1
Mania VTB-4BS
Dean Stylist w/ John Birch Magnum II pups
Yamaha BB414
Trace Elliot VA350/GP11 Mk1
Peavey TB-Raxx
2 BFM Omni 10.5 crossfire cabs
Roland Bass Cube 100
Epiphone Jack Casady
Ovation Magnum 1
Mania VTB-4BS
Dean Stylist w/ John Birch Magnum II pups
Yamaha BB414
Trace Elliot VA350/GP11 Mk1
Peavey TB-Raxx
2 BFM Omni 10.5 crossfire cabs
Roland Bass Cube 100
Re: 4003 TRC - I smell something fishy
I bought a fake TRC of eBay a couple of years ago. Kenny helped me get my money back from eBay. Hopefully got the place shut down as well. Let's hope for some action on this one as well.
Re: 4003 TRC - I smell something fishy
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Re: 4003 TRC - I smell something fishy
Stone me! The "Rickenbacker" on that is so poorly executed you wonder how on earth the original maker thought they'd get away with it. 
2004 4003 JetGlo
Epiphone Jack Casady
Ovation Magnum 1
Mania VTB-4BS
Dean Stylist w/ John Birch Magnum II pups
Yamaha BB414
Trace Elliot VA350/GP11 Mk1
Peavey TB-Raxx
2 BFM Omni 10.5 crossfire cabs
Roland Bass Cube 100
Epiphone Jack Casady
Ovation Magnum 1
Mania VTB-4BS
Dean Stylist w/ John Birch Magnum II pups
Yamaha BB414
Trace Elliot VA350/GP11 Mk1
Peavey TB-Raxx
2 BFM Omni 10.5 crossfire cabs
Roland Bass Cube 100
Re: 4003 TRC - I smell something fishy
Shoddy workmanship annoys me even more than the fact that they're selling fakes. I mean for the love of God, atleast put some effort into it, don't just whip out a box of crayolas and call it a day.
Re: 4003 TRC - I smell something fishy
The listing featured in my original post has been removed.
2004 4003 JetGlo
Epiphone Jack Casady
Ovation Magnum 1
Mania VTB-4BS
Dean Stylist w/ John Birch Magnum II pups
Yamaha BB414
Trace Elliot VA350/GP11 Mk1
Peavey TB-Raxx
2 BFM Omni 10.5 crossfire cabs
Roland Bass Cube 100
Epiphone Jack Casady
Ovation Magnum 1
Mania VTB-4BS
Dean Stylist w/ John Birch Magnum II pups
Yamaha BB414
Trace Elliot VA350/GP11 Mk1
Peavey TB-Raxx
2 BFM Omni 10.5 crossfire cabs
Roland Bass Cube 100
Re: 4003 TRC - I smell something fishy
What? No Rickenbarker love?? WOOF! WOOF!
