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I know that 4080 has bolt-on, but is there any other (rare proof) of bolt-on with other 4000 model (e.g. the miraculous B-series)?
Does anybody have some pic?

I think the 3000 series were the only other bolt-on basses.

Grey wrote:I think the 3000 series were the only other bolt-on basses.

As well were the 2000 series basses.

All of the following Rickenbacker basses have "bolt on" (actually, wood screws) necks:

3000
3001
2020 Hamburg
2030 Hamburg
2030 Glenn Frey
2050 El Dorado
2060 El Dorado
And both necks on the 4080 and 4080/12

None are currently in production.

bassduke49 wrote:All of the following Rickenbacker basses have "bolt on" (actually, wood screws) necks:

3000
3001
2020 Hamburg
2030 Hamburg
2030 Glenn Frey
2050 El Dorado
2060 El Dorado
And both necks on the 4080 and 4080/12

None are currently in production.

Always found that funny. If a through neck wasn't an option for the construction of the instrument, why not a set neck? I desperately long for a 4080 with set necks. I guess that's something I'd have to have pieced together privately.

It's my understanding that they basically ARE set neck (the 4080), with the backing plate/screws added for extra strength.

If the necks are loose, not glued, then they are "bolt on" necks. If they are glued in place and still plated and screwed, they're STILL "bolt on" necks.

jingle_jangle wrote:If the necks are loose, not glued, then they are "bolt on" necks. If they are glued in place and still plated and screwed, they're STILL "bolt on" necks.

So let me get this straight, if they have bolts, they are bolt on???

Yep. And if they have wood screws, they're "bolt-on", too, thanks to Leo "tremolo and vibrato are interchangeable" Fender.

jingle_jangle wrote:Yep. And if they have wood screws, they're "bolt-on", too, thanks to Leo "tremolo and vibrato are interchangeable" Fender.

I'm not sure that's the main reason for the misuse of the terminology. It's simply the perception that "screw-on" = cheap. As if to say you're just taking a couple hunks of wood, putting some screws in it and calling a day.
Whereas "bolt-on" sounds sturdy and permanant.

I'm fairly sure, as Forrest White, among others, have mentioned it in print going back quite a few years.

Loose lips create legends.

jingle_jangle wrote:I'm fairly sure, as Forrest White, among others, have mentioned it in print going back quite a few years.

Loose lips create legends.

Sure, but I don't think it's a stretch to say that many people don't know who he is. The main reason based on what i've seen is the preconcieved notion that bolt-on guitars are "cheap".

gearhed289 wrote:It's my understanding that they basically ARE set neck (the 4080), with the backing plate/screws added for extra strength.

+1

Grey wrote:

jingle_jangle wrote:I'm fairly sure, as Forrest White, among others, have mentioned it in print going back quite a few years.

Loose lips create legends.

Sure, but I don't think it's a stretch to say that many people don't know who he is. The main reason based on what i've seen is the preconcieved notion that bolt-on guitars are "cheap".

No question that there's a perceived value issue about bolt-on necked guitars, and it's one example of how visuals and the feel of something can affect the perception of even the least knowledgeable layman, as well as the Old Pros. Ref. Fred Gretsch, upon seeing his first Telecaster in person, "Now anybody with a router and a bandsaw can be a guitar manufacturer!". But I see little difference between "bolt-on" and "screw-on" except that "screw-on" doesn't roll off the tongue nearly as well.

jingle_jangle wrote: If they are glued in place and still plated and screwed, they're STILL "bolt on" necks.

I call 'em "screwed 'n glued"!