1960 365 help/info
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:43 pm
Forgive the double-post... I'm new here and just posted this in the "Guitars" section without reading all the headers first... this is obviously the more-appropriate forum:
Yesterday I went to look at a guitar... the guy said it was a 1960 Rickenbacker 6-string. He didn't have a great deal of info on it, but through my own research I identified it as a 365... double-bound, one slash soundhole, deluxe wedge inlays, Accent tremolo in a recess, and Ric-o-Sound. Correct s/n for 1960 (2Rxxx). All that sounds pretty good...
It's Torquise, which as I understand is a very unlikely original color (almost all are either natural or sunburst from what I've read). I expected a refin, and it was. Very, very nice job, though.
I had some concerns I'll share, and would appreciate your feedback.
-White "flat" pickguard, looks like a later version... should have been gold/plexi/stepped, right?
-Knobs are larger plastic, knurled/ribbed, not "oven"style. Look like genuine Ric knobs, but not what should be on there?
-Pickups look original, and the input jack has two holes (first year stereo/ric-o-sound), but only one jack.. obviously the wiring has been messed with.
-S/N plate was slightly bent and not mounted squarely on the body... in a refin, hardware is R and R'd... should have looked "factory" in my opinion, but it looked mickey-moused to me... I think the plate got bent when it was off the guitar.
-Trem was missing arm, but that seems an easy fix... Also, said "Ac'cent by Paul" on it, with a pat. pend. number. I've not heard of the "by Paul" part before.
-Kluson "Deluxe" tuners looked right, as did the truss rod cover.
-Inlays looked like old plastic, not the crushed material I'm used to seeing. I am NOT familiar with a Ric this old, so maybe the plastic-looking inlay is correct?
Anyhow, my conclusion was that it was a genuine body/neck/hardware, with later pickguard and electronics, probably original pickups. Input jack looked screwed-with though... that's what put me off the purchase.
The case was silver tolex with black end caps (end caps looked too new?), and had a Rickenbacker tag covered with plastic. Repro case, or original? Looked old and original inside... owner said it was original.
Feedback welcomed. It was inexpensive enough that it might be a fair buy still... I just worried that it might be a clone/fake with some original hardware on it... those inlays scared me. Are they right? ~T
Yesterday I went to look at a guitar... the guy said it was a 1960 Rickenbacker 6-string. He didn't have a great deal of info on it, but through my own research I identified it as a 365... double-bound, one slash soundhole, deluxe wedge inlays, Accent tremolo in a recess, and Ric-o-Sound. Correct s/n for 1960 (2Rxxx). All that sounds pretty good...
It's Torquise, which as I understand is a very unlikely original color (almost all are either natural or sunburst from what I've read). I expected a refin, and it was. Very, very nice job, though.
I had some concerns I'll share, and would appreciate your feedback.
-White "flat" pickguard, looks like a later version... should have been gold/plexi/stepped, right?
-Knobs are larger plastic, knurled/ribbed, not "oven"style. Look like genuine Ric knobs, but not what should be on there?
-Pickups look original, and the input jack has two holes (first year stereo/ric-o-sound), but only one jack.. obviously the wiring has been messed with.
-S/N plate was slightly bent and not mounted squarely on the body... in a refin, hardware is R and R'd... should have looked "factory" in my opinion, but it looked mickey-moused to me... I think the plate got bent when it was off the guitar.
-Trem was missing arm, but that seems an easy fix... Also, said "Ac'cent by Paul" on it, with a pat. pend. number. I've not heard of the "by Paul" part before.
-Kluson "Deluxe" tuners looked right, as did the truss rod cover.
-Inlays looked like old plastic, not the crushed material I'm used to seeing. I am NOT familiar with a Ric this old, so maybe the plastic-looking inlay is correct?
Anyhow, my conclusion was that it was a genuine body/neck/hardware, with later pickguard and electronics, probably original pickups. Input jack looked screwed-with though... that's what put me off the purchase.
The case was silver tolex with black end caps (end caps looked too new?), and had a Rickenbacker tag covered with plastic. Repro case, or original? Looked old and original inside... owner said it was original.
Feedback welcomed. It was inexpensive enough that it might be a fair buy still... I just worried that it might be a clone/fake with some original hardware on it... those inlays scared me. Are they right? ~T