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Johnny Marr - Beautiful sound

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:55 am
by david/wales/u.k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm1e4DnRiAM.........The most influential guitarist for me...doesn't play the Ric so much now but I could listen to him play anything...........Any ideas on what effects he is using here whether it be from the amp or seperate pedals???......Compression..Chorus..Delay...Reverb...Slight Distortion.....A touch of flange as well???........ I think he presses distortion on the what difference does it make riff but it's when he plays there is a light ( 1:27 ) that the sound is just wonderful to my ears.........Any Ideas how he gets that???? ..Great player, great sound, great man. :D

Re: Johnny Marr - Beautiful sound

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:10 pm
by fireglo67
I think you'll find what you need here.........

http://www.smithsonguitar.com/2008/12/j ... -gear.html

Re: Johnny Marr - Beautiful sound

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:21 pm
by david/wales/u.k
That's a great site Rob and I've been on it before but it goes into lots of detail whereas I'm curious just about this particular clip.....I know some of the gear he's used and uses now but this particular snippet of music has me fascinated.......It doesn't matter what brand of pedal he uses but the actual effects he uses on this clip...It just sounds really pure imo.. :?:

Re: Johnny Marr - Beautiful sound

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:56 pm
by fireglo67
david/wales/u.k wrote:That's a great site Rob and I've been on it before but it goes into lots of detail whereas I'm curious just about this particular clip.....I know some of the gear he's used and uses now but this particular snippet of music has me fascinated.......It doesn't matter what brand of pedal he uses but the actual effects he uses on this clip...It just sounds really pure imo.. :?:

I would guess that he's just going straight into the amp and using the pedal from that.

Re: Johnny Marr - Beautiful sound

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:25 pm
by Jahn
Jonny Marr lover here too - I think his main thing is a Ric into a Diamond Compressor into a clean amp and there you go. He's not a purist by any means, but that chime is pretty simply achieved - well, simple for him!

Re: Johnny Marr - Beautiful sound

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:05 am
by egosheep
Another angle of him doing it here:


Many people have said they hear a pitch shifter being used here, like a POG, to get a pseudo 12 string sound. Maybe so, but that 330 itself has an amazing, high strung treble quality to it, and the way he plays uses a lot of subtle pull offs and open strings that add a lot of "it", whatever it is. MarrMojo?

To learn this song, this tutorial is the best, hands down:


There is no pitch shifter in this video with the strat, yet it still has that sound. Those riffs do give that impression.

Re: Johnny Marr - Beautiful sound

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:30 am
by egosheep
The case of Johnny's 1983 330:
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Re: Johnny Marr - Beautiful sound

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:49 pm
by Slow Graffiti
For any other Smiths fans out there, I stumbled across this cool documentary on Youtube the other day:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_q9McmB ... ce=message

Re: Johnny Marr - Beautiful sound

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:50 am
by david/wales/u.k
Thanks for that........I'l watch this later today as I got annual leave this week.....( just got to take the dog out and do some housework first!! :roll: )
The opening bit with Melvyn Bragg was a show called the south bank show and I remember watching that on a Sunday night when it was first shown... (When the smiths had just split up)...I must have only been about 15 or 16 and didn't know too much about them then but I still remember being quite fascinated by them... ........(btw...I received an email from Johnny Marr last week...cool or what 8)

Re: Johnny Marr - Beautiful sound

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:44 pm
by pocaloc
Love Johnny Marr. His new Jaguar looks really cool. There is a lot of attention to detail and I think he was really involved in all of the tweaks/improvements from the standard Jaguar.

Re: Johnny Marr - Beautiful sound

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:22 pm
by bobbolux
pocaloc wrote:Love Johnny Marr. His new Jaguar looks really cool. There is a lot of attention to detail and I think he was really involved in all of the tweaks/improvements from the standard Jaguar.
agreed, that Jag makes me want a Jag...and I'm a bass player.

Re: Johnny Marr - Beautiful sound

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:03 pm
by pocaloc
bobbolux wrote:
pocaloc wrote:Love Johnny Marr. His new Jaguar looks really cool. There is a lot of attention to detail and I think he was really involved in all of the tweaks/improvements from the standard Jaguar.
agreed, that Jag makes me want a Jag...and I'm a bass player.
I almost had my money down on a Lake Placid Blue thin skin jaguar until I started reading about this one. If only it was in a color I liked. I'm starting to be taken with the white on white, mainly because I've watched the video a thousand times. :D

Re: Johnny Marr - Beautiful sound

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:19 am
by somebodyelseuk
egosheep wrote:Another angle of him doing it here:


Many people have said they hear a pitch shifter being used here, like a POG, to get a pseudo 12 string sound. Maybe so, but that 330 itself has an amazing, high strung treble quality to it, and the way he plays uses a lot of subtle pull offs and open strings that add a lot of "it", whatever it is. MarrMojo?

To learn this song, this tutorial is the best, hands down:


There is no pitch shifter in this video with the strat, yet it still has that sound. Those riffs do give that impression.
The Johnny Marr clip DEFINITELY has a pitch shifter set at an octave up - you can hear that horrible sickly squeak that alot of pitch shifters add to the sound.
Johnny Marr is not only an vastly under-rated guitarist, he is a lovely bloke, too.

The other clip just sounds like an average guy sat in his bedroom playing a Strat - no more, no less.