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EVER LISTEN TO "ESQUIRE" ???
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:52 am
by BAD RONBO, KiLLeR DWaRfS
in my humble opinion, this is a greatly over looked first outing from 1987 by nikki squire. i picked it up back then and the song structures, harmonies and bass playing scales are fantastic. when i saw that chris squire was on the lp, i assumed he did the bass playing and sounding very much like the tone the mpc electra had, not to mention the bass effects used. not so ! it was nigel mclaren.( did he borrow squire's effects rack ???) pat thrall is doing some guitars as well as alan white on drums. this is caught somewhere between drama and 90125 for similarity. if you want to hear the best sound, get the lp. next would be the cd (which i purchased from nikki) although the sound has changed as did the original song order with alternate mixes.
Re: EVER LISTEN TO "ESQUIRE" ???
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:40 am
by just_bassics
I have a copy of that somewhere and did give it a listen a few years back. I remember thinking that it had decent production values and solid playing, with a very 80's feel. I think Chris had a hand in there somewhere either with writing and / or production, but I can't remember the details. I'll have to dig it out and listen again.
Re: EVER LISTEN TO "ESQUIRE" ???
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:09 pm
by miguelbass
Re: EVER LISTEN TO "ESQUIRE" ???
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:09 pm
by jps
It sure sounds like Chris had quite a bit in moulding the sound of this band,
What bass is in the videos? It looks a lot like an Basking Shark.
Re: EVER LISTEN TO "ESQUIRE" ???
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:11 pm
by BAD RONBO, KiLLeR DWaRfS
many thanx for posting the vids, miguel !

someday...maybe mr. squire would chime in on his contributions for this effort...insquiring minds would like to know !!!

i always thought the english had some pretty unique bass sounds compared to americans in the '80's...level 42,tears for fears, mr. mclaren on this record,etc.
Re: EVER LISTEN TO "ESQUIRE" ???
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:23 pm
by BAD RONBO, KiLLeR DWaRfS
btw...great hair on nikki !!!

Re: EVER LISTEN TO "ESQUIRE" ???
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:52 pm
by woodyng
Oh yeah!
Had the lp,and bought the cd later-i really like the whole of it,and I used to wonder if that wasn't really Chris on the bass parts,but Nikki confirms otherwise. It has Great band arrangements which really feature the bass guitar.
Re: EVER LISTEN TO "ESQUIRE" ???
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:22 pm
by johnallg
To my ears and Squire-experience, I am of the thought Chris had a major input on the writing of this music, if not that they were his tunes he let Nikki have. I can't get past that when listening. Of course, MHO.
Re: EVER LISTEN TO "ESQUIRE" ???
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:05 am
by just_bassics
I must agree, John. I think Chris was very helpful on this record. Reminds me of a line from Steve Martin's L.A. Story, "The difference between Americans and English, we English maintain civil relations with our ex's, Americans try to kill theirs..." Words to that effect.

Re: EVER LISTEN TO "ESQUIRE" ???
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:59 pm
by johnallg
just_bassics wrote:I must agree, John. I think Chris was very helpful on this record. Reminds me of a line from Steve Martin's L.A. Story, "The difference between Americans and English, we English maintain civil relations with our ex's, Americans try to kill theirs..." Words to that effect.

I keep imagining Billy and Chris could have record those songs and they would have fit right in with their body of work. Definitely not trying to dis Nikki, but I can't see her writing, especially harmonies, on a par with Chris.
Re: EVER LISTEN TO "ESQUIRE" ???
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:29 pm
by ajish4
Wow, yup...I have the LP here too!
I listened to it once, and had similar thoughts about the bass parts.
It will probably never see a turntable again, but it's part of the collection.
Re: EVER LISTEN TO "ESQUIRE" ???
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:35 am
by BAD RONBO, KiLLeR DWaRfS
i play it regularly ! very powerful !

Re: EVER LISTEN TO "ESQUIRE" ???
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:56 am
by iamthebassman
Bought the LP when it came out, also have an Esquire press pack.
Re: EVER LISTEN TO "ESQUIRE" ???
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:12 pm
by BAD RONBO, KiLLeR DWaRfS
Re: EVER LISTEN TO "ESQUIRE" ???
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:50 pm
by Billsbro
Was this just a thinly veiled attempt to boost sales of this CD?
Because it worked!
(I'll give you my review once it arrives...)