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Seeing double on the 'bay

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 10:47 pm
by jnbass
Nice lookin double neck, Looks like Ruby too...http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41439&item=2372008154

Should this be under the g'tar section as well?

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 4:20 am
by atomic_punk
A few questions...
Why does one neck have a black truss rod cover and the other have a white one?
What is with the mirrored pickguard? I'd definitely have to get rid of THAT.

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 4:32 am
by beatlefan
I noticed that too, Steve....this will be an interesting auction.....so will that "black beauty"..... ;)

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 5:09 am
by ojobob2
also black hardware in the 70's?

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 6:20 am
by jwr2
also note the extra dial and extra toggle switch ... the wiring has been modified ...

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 7:48 pm
by jnbass
seller posted this instument @ Mike Parks' site. Also included some of presumably our forum member's comments.

Still like the way this thang looks...

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 11:09 am
by rickcrazy
Hm... I must be doing something wrong, 'cause I can't find the 'rubyglo/black hardware' 4080 anywhere at Mike Parks' site. I'll try again. If I don't succeed, someone please steer my in the right direction. Thanks.

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 11:31 am
by jwr2
look under free classifieds

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 2:48 pm
by doctorwho
The first posting ended without a sale - $2650, reserve not met. The repost

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2374390272

has about four days left, with the reserve still not met at $2801.

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 7:10 pm
by johnhall
Looks to me like the black hardware was created with an aerosol can. You can see chrome peeking out in several worn spots. No genuine black components have chrome underneath.

Actually, I did the first catalog photos of black hardware before it really existed by spraying standard parts with matte black epoxy out of a can. It's surprising how well it's worn over the years. Indeed, that first one I did was Ruby, a 620, that's currently celebrity owned.

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 3:48 am
by rickcrazy
What about the (re)finish? It is a refinish, isn't it?
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:22 am
by johnhall
Looks original to me. Burgundy had a very wide range of shades over the years and I've seen it this light as well as looking almost black.

Back then, burgundy was just a mix of the Fireglo and Jetglo black dye used for the color coat. Change the ratio slightly and/or spray a different depth and the whole appearance changed.

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 12:18 pm
by rickcrazy
Yes, I'm aware that Burgundyglo was a mix of Fireglo & Jetglo, and that its final appearance depended on a couple of factors, however I maintain the 4080 at issue has been refinished. The instrument has been relisted, and due to the lower resolution of the new accompanying pics you can't make out the finish spray pattern conspicuously apparent on the previous set of shots of the instrument. Luckily, I have downloaded some of the original pictures. I think I'll e-mail a couple of those to you to prove my point.

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 12:47 pm
by johnhall
Yeah, that's a tough call without looking under the pickguard or into the truss rod pocket.

However, a sunk in finish due to time in a dry climate might do that and I've also seen that effect when using "sharpening" on digital photos.

The color itself is not out of the realm of possibility, however.