Hadn't seen this before, apologies if already posted. Can't say anything but awesome
Re: Isolated Squire Bass
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:22 am
by cassius987
Is this the bass AND the guitar part or just the bass? Sounds like both to me.
*For those who don't know what I mean, Chris has said he recorded this part with a picked guitar doubling the bass line.
Re: Isolated Squire Bass
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:56 am
by cjj
Sounds like just bass to me...
Re: Isolated Squire Bass
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:23 am
by Seans
Included in the mix will be two basses also, same bass but both pups into separate amps to their own channel on the desk.
Re: Isolated Squire Bass
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:58 am
by miguelbass
It's the main bassline (bass only) taken from a video-game - it was presented here some months ago.
Notice on the "drifting cloud" section how Chris lights slides his hand on the new Rotosound strings, just before each repetition while the low E is still sounding.
Technically, this left hand movement is not exactly *needed* to reach the following note (it will be the same open E string), rather it shows Chris "miming" the previous upbeat, gaining momentum for the next repetition.
It also makes you "visualize" Chris' moves while recording in the studio.
Miguel
Re: Isolated Squire Bass
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 6:56 am
by Seans
Interesting after 6.45 the sound suddenly looses some top end.
Re: Isolated Squire Bass
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:49 am
by pag
Its great to hear the drop-ins!
I remember an interview in Melody Maker that Yes did during the recording of Fragile.
I think it was Chris or Steve that said it was a strange feeling playing in isolated booths whereas
they had previously recorded in the same room.
You get the slight overspill of Brufords drums here and there but you can tell the kit is away from the bass mic up.
On the subject of Fragile,I was messing around trying out my Line 6 M13 looper facility and had a (very rough mind you)
go at doing The Fish.Its straight into the stereo at home so no Ampeg grunge but not a bad sound.
I am going to persevere and try to get a better try but heres what it sounds like....and its an isolated bass track!
On second thought I think you are right. I was thrown off by how treble-y his sound is. I think the reason it gets muddier after 6:45 is probably some engineering issue, nothing seems to have changed on the instrument end.
Weird thing is, now I can't distinguish much between this tone and the tone on the recording although it may a bit brighter on the record--I swear he has said he "cheated" and used an electric guitar over the bass to record this part in an interview.
Re: Isolated Squire Bass
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:25 am
by s4001
...and the arguments I used to get in with engineers about fret buzz....
Re: Isolated Squire Bass
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:49 am
by Seans
s4001 wrote:...and the arguments I used to get in with engineers about fret buzz....
Engineers ha, '' Rickenbacker, that's not a BASS'', the rest of the day didn't go too well after that comment.
Seans wrote:Engineers ha, '' Rickenbacker, that's not a BASS'', the rest of the day didn't go too well after that comment.
As a counterpoint to that...........when I was doing my old jazz fusion, rock,latin, progressive, world music band, Rare Blend, we did a big festival gig in Columbus and were something like the 4th band to go on, in the very late afternoon/early evening time slot. As I walked on to the stage with my (at the time) July '73 FG 4001, the sound engineer, (probably the monitor mixer) looked at me and said: "Finally, a REAL bass!!!" I guess they weren't too fond of all the 6 string coffee table booteek bassses the previous band's bassists were using; I think I made a good call in bringing the Rick instead of my two ZON 5 string basses, one of them fretless, with no lines!
Re: Isolated Squire Bass
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:42 am
by s4001
jps wrote:
Seans wrote:Engineers ha, '' Rickenbacker, that's not a BASS'', the rest of the day didn't go too well after that comment.
As a counterpoint to that...........when I was doing my old jazz fusion, rock,latin, progressive, world music band, Rare Blend, we did a big festival gig in Columbus and were something like the 4th band to go on, in the very late afternoon/early evening time slot. As I walked on to the stage with my (at the time) July '73 FG 4001, the sound engineer, (probably the monitor mixer) looked at me and said: "Finally, a REAL bass!!!" I guess they weren't too fond of all the 6 string coffee table booteek bassses the previous band's bassists were using; I think I made a good call in bringing the Rick instead of my two ZON 5 string basses, one of them fretless, with no lines!
Yeah. I had that happen at the festival gig I did a couple weeks ago. I think my statement is a little dated. Engineers now seem to understand what a Ric is all about.
Re: Isolated Squire Bass
Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:34 am
by songdog
s4001 wrote:...and the arguments I used to get in with engineers about fret buzz....
I guess they weren't too fond of all the 6 string coffee table booteek bassses the previous band's bassists were using; I think I made a good call in bringing the Rick instead of my two ZON 5 string basses, one of them fretless, with no lines! 
