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RE-C58 one off! Help!

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:09 pm
by 8577edgar
Hello a few days back I posted for the first time regarding my newly acquired 325C58 and have not been able to post up pics (I have been out of town). Anyway this is my first 325 and I love it but I understand I came across a unique one. Here are some of the things I found to be different: Regular jackplate (instead of the Elongated C58), Trapeze bridge, Bridge cover, Lacquered neck, and Montezuma Brown Finish. No extra holes anywhere, no mods, it appears to have been built this way. It is in fact a C58 the body measure 2 inches in depth. I cannot find a serial number on it, I was told to look inside the under the pickguard for any special markings but I found nothing, the only special marking i found was at the 12th fret facing me, it has a red mark at the end of the fret. Anyway If I could get some info on my new guitar I would really I appreciate it :) I love this thing it has been my dream guitar and I just cant seem to put it down now that I finally own one. Here are a few pics (not the greatest I took them with my smart phone)

http://i.imgur.com/SsHZR.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ELXE1.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/EOXkD.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/sDeTU.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/WKA5b.jpg

Re: RE-C58 one off! Help!

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:17 pm
by sloop_john_b
That is indeed an odd duck. A c58 would have an elongated jackplate. That pickguard appears to be from a v59 (note odd control spacing). Finish just looks off to me, though it could be the photo quality/lighting.

Re: RE-C58 one off! Help!

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:28 pm
by 8577edgar
Yes indeed it is, the guy I got it from told me it belonged to some celeb, he got it at an estate sale practically in mint condition. He said he believes its an 04' model but that's as much info as he had on the guitar, I compared it to his other C58 and everything looked the same except for those little differences, he said it must have been a custom factory build. I'm hoping to get some answers here. Sorry for the pics i know they don't do the finish justice the lighting makes everything look weird.

Re: RE-C58 one off! Help!

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:57 pm
by krick
Interesting. A puzzle for sure.

The fact there are no markings inside the control cavity and no serial number on the jack plate makes me question if this is a genuine Rickenbacker. Also, the bridge looks more like an Allparts bridge than a genuine RIC item to me. Most of the other parts look legit to me.

Do the tuners look like this and say RIC-TITE on the back?

http://boutique.rickenbacker.com/KEYWIN ... p_529.html

Re: RE-C58 one off! Help!

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:39 pm
by 8577edgar
yes the tuners are the open back special gotoh made for rickenbacker. Here are a few more pics these give you a better idea of what the finish is like.I hope someone out there is of help, Id hate to find out that I got fooled into a fake rick :(

http://i.imgur.com/vxvqn.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ChNHy.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/V1OOL.jpg

Re: RE-C58 one off! Help!

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:57 pm
by krick
Also being discussed here: viewtopic.php?p=774338#p774338

The 325C58 models I have seen did not have a bridge covers and there were no holes to mount a bridge cover.

Does yours have brass rollers in the bridge saddles?

Re: RE-C58 one off! Help!

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:12 pm
by 8577edgar
It has saddles, no rollers. I thought maybe it was a v59 considering some of the specs but the body depth measures 2 inches. I'm really confused now to say the least :?

Re: RE-C58 one off! Help!

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:47 pm
by Hotzenplotz
Unfortunately the jackplate is not exactly what is normally used by RIC as the "usual" single jack plate, too.
The grain of the fretboard is something to have a closer look at - and the way the cavity is painted, too.

The spacing of the pickup selector is strange as well.

All this can be o.k. - it is usual at RIC that sometimes things are happening that usually do not happen.

What is under the truss rod cover, one or two rods? Can You please make a picture of that?
And: what is written on the pots?

Re: RE-C58 one off! Help!

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:57 pm
by 8577edgar
I will look under the truss rod cover today once I get home and post up pics, I will also take a closer picture of the fret board and the pots, I hope to find good news :?

Re: RE-C58 one off! Help!

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:18 am
by 8mileshigh
Looks like too many erroneous features to be real IMHO :(

Re: RE-C58 one off! Help!

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:00 pm
by deaconblues
Ramp is all wrong.

Re: RE-C58 one off! Help!

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:07 pm
by Ivan3000
Hotzenplotz wrote:Unfortunately the jackplate is not exactly what is normally used by RIC as the "usual" single jack plate, too.
The grain of the fretboard is something to have a closer look at - and the way the cavity is painted, too.

The spacing of the pickup selector is strange as well.

All this can be o.k. - it is usual at RIC that sometimes things are happening that usually do not happen.

What is under the truss rod cover, one or two rods? Can You please make a picture of that?
And: what is written on the pots?
The C58's only have one rod, I beleive.

Re: RE-C58 one off! Help!

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:08 pm
by Ivan3000
The headstock's shape looks a little off too, it flares out on the top bass side too much..

Re: RE-C58 one off! Help!

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:18 pm
by Hotzenplotz
dpowell wrote:Ramp is all wrong.
Yep!

:(

Re: RE-C58 one off! Help!

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:57 pm
by Ivan3000
Hotzenplotz wrote:
dpowell wrote:Ramp is all wrong.
Yep!

:(
The cut out in the wood almost seems too drastic.


Sorry man, I hope you didn't pay too much for it. There is still a chance that it is a prototype that was never meant to leave the factory so, they didn't give it a serial number, and mayne they were just testing different shapes and finishes on that model.
Don't lose hope!