Sound for I wanna hold your hand ?
- Medicus1963
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Sound for I wanna hold your hand ?
Hi,
I am desperately looking for the sound of I wanna hold your hand, rhythm guitar of John Lennon.
I have the right ingredients : 325C58 in jetglo ( I think the color is most important ! ) equipped with Glen´s loom, and a old Vox AC30.
But i cannot get the right sound out of these things ! Please are there any secrets ?
Thanks !
Peter
I am desperately looking for the sound of I wanna hold your hand, rhythm guitar of John Lennon.
I have the right ingredients : 325C58 in jetglo ( I think the color is most important ! ) equipped with Glen´s loom, and a old Vox AC30.
But i cannot get the right sound out of these things ! Please are there any secrets ?
Thanks !
Peter
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Re: Sound for I wanna hold your hand ?
What you are missing of course is the air from 1963 London.
Since the air has changed such a great deal in the last forty years, it is impossible to replicate that "atmosphere" of Beatlemania...
Beatlemania - Not a disease but an incredible simulation!
Since the air has changed such a great deal in the last forty years, it is impossible to replicate that "atmosphere" of Beatlemania...
Beatlemania - Not a disease but an incredible simulation!
Brian Morton
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- sloop_john_b
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Re: Sound for I wanna hold your hand ?
Use your tone knob. Make it as muffled as possible.
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Re: Sound for I wanna hold your hand ?
Maybe you mean hair?Ontario_RIC_fan wrote:What you are missing of course is the air from 1963 London.
I think part of the tone lies in all the analogue recording equipment of the day for a bit as well. You might get close but never exactly the same!
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Re: Sound for I wanna hold your hand ?
I agree with JB, roll off treble as much as possible. I can hear George Martin playing a Hammond organ, too.
This fellow seemed to nail it pretty well and has the same guitar as you...
This fellow seemed to nail it pretty well and has the same guitar as you...
Re: Sound for I wanna hold your hand ?
I read a really interesting book recently by the engineer from most of the Beatle albums, "Here, There, and Everywhere" by Geoff Emerick. In it he talks a lot about how they were experimenting with changing the sound via the recording process. Odd mics, overdriving the board, etc.
One of the most interesting ones was where they took a bass cabinet put it face to face with Paul's bass cabinet, wired it into the board and used that as the microphone. I don't have the book here, but I think this was for Penny Lane.
Interesting book, not at all flattering to John, George, or Ringo. The author was close with Paul and it shows.
-Harry
One of the most interesting ones was where they took a bass cabinet put it face to face with Paul's bass cabinet, wired it into the board and used that as the microphone. I don't have the book here, but I think this was for Penny Lane.
Interesting book, not at all flattering to John, George, or Ringo. The author was close with Paul and it shows.
-Harry
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Re: Sound for I wanna hold your hand ?
Where?JakeK wrote: I can hear George Martin playing a Hammond organ, too.
Re: Sound for I wanna hold your hand ?
I did some research, and it was George Martin who said he did, but Steve Hoffman pointed out that there wasn't a Hammond said it was the muffly tone of the 325. As we've seen before, you can't go by memory, there has to be proof.
Re: Sound for I wanna hold your hand ?
Flatwound strings?
Re: Sound for I wanna hold your hand ?
This sound like
*dead roundwound strings (if any were around at that time)
*flatwound strings
*too light gauge for the shortscale
*treble rolled off
*quite hard attack of the strings
*tube amp, analogue recorded without any fancy stuff
one of those or a combination
*dead roundwound strings (if any were around at that time)
*flatwound strings
*too light gauge for the shortscale
*treble rolled off
*quite hard attack of the strings
*tube amp, analogue recorded without any fancy stuff
one of those or a combination
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Re: Sound for I wanna hold your hand ?
Didn't they use Pyramid strings? Pyramids are flatwound, but with a looser wrap so that they have a more flexible feel.
Just my 2 cents worth!
Jim
Just my 2 cents worth!
Jim
Re: Sound for I wanna hold your hand ?
Play it like you're beating the **** out of your guitar. It works for me.
Re: Sound for I wanna hold your hand ?
Probably not. They probably used Selmer strings. The reported literature seems to indicate they weren't too picky about strings.FabGearHead wrote:Didn't they use Pyramid strings? Pyramids are flatwound, but with a looser wrap so that they have a more flexible feel.
Just my 2 cents worth!
Jim
Re: Sound for I wanna hold your hand ?
As far as THAT SOUND? I can only refer you to the discussion in
Greg's Amplifier and Tube Tech Forum: by Greg Simon/VOX AC15 tube advice needed
I'd give that Pre amp/Gain Stage: 12AU7 (or similar) a try..... trust me, you'll LIKE IT!
Check out this one...
Greg's Amplifier and Tube Tech Forum: by Greg Simon/VOX AC15 tube advice needed
I'd give that Pre amp/Gain Stage: 12AU7 (or similar) a try..... trust me, you'll LIKE IT!
Check out this one...
Re: Sound for I wanna hold your hand ?
Peter,
just turn the tone pot to muddy. Use the bridge pu. If you are using a AC30, please use the brilliant channel, turn treble and bass to the low position, treble cut to the treble position
You really need the vox-bass cut character to get the right sound.
To me, the Hammond organ is a joke.
The sound of the rhythm guitar in Roll over Beethoven is pretty similar.
Wolfgang
just turn the tone pot to muddy. Use the bridge pu. If you are using a AC30, please use the brilliant channel, turn treble and bass to the low position, treble cut to the treble position
You really need the vox-bass cut character to get the right sound.
To me, the Hammond organ is a joke.
The sound of the rhythm guitar in Roll over Beethoven is pretty similar.
Wolfgang