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What is this?
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:38 am
by heinpete
Have there been more early 4001WHT with CB than the one from Gibb?
http://imageevent.com/nicksguitars/rick ... 01bass1973
Re: What is this?
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:00 am
by ilan
According to Chris Clayton's
Ric Finish Timeline, white was offered from 1970. Checkerboard was standard binding for the 4001 Deluxe until Aug '73. By that time white had black body binding, guards and nameplates. Maybe this one was a custom order reverse trim.
Re: What is this?
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:14 am
by chefothefuture
The type does say re-fin.... Perhaps white was not it's original color.
Didn't a forumite just sell a white re- fin a few months back?
Re: What is this?
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:20 am
by ilan
chefothefuture wrote:The type does say re-fin....
Oops...
Re: What is this?
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:42 am
by jps
Mike Parks, of course, not Chris Clayton.

Re: What is this?
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:48 am
by iiipopes
I used to have a '76 4001 that patina'd to the same creamy color. Look closely at how the finish interacts with the binding. If this is a refin, it's the best refin I've ever seen....
Re: What is this?
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:54 am
by Ontario_RIC_fan
My guess is that it was MG originally and was refined in the 70s... The wear on it is years old... SN is MD 1100
Re: What is this?
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:17 pm
by bassduke49
One caution on the color timeline on Mike Parks' Rickenbacker Page/Music Connection website: It's certainly a handy graphic, but it is based on the information in the Japanese Rittor Rickenbacker book. Don't know how or where Rittor got their information. Overall, it's pretty good, but it should be understood that RIC production is not held to any particular time lines (no absolutes). I used the information in that chart, official RIC price sheets, and the RRF Registry to include suggested color time lines in the book, all the while remembering that RIC could paint any color it wanted at any time.
Re: What is this?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:47 pm
by Ivan3000
From what the pictures look like, it doesn't look like there is any finish on the fretboard. I'd say the inlays are not factory original.
Cool bass though.
Re: What is this?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:56 pm
by jps
Those inlays look original, to me. For a few months the material was like the later small inlays but in full width after switching from the crushed pearl material. here are a few from my March '73 4001; some I have seen are more opaque, like those on the white bass in question (MD1100).
Re: What is this?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:28 pm
by Ivan3000
jps wrote:Those inlays look original, to me. For a few months the material was like the later small inlays but in full width after switching from the crushed pearl material. here are a few from my March '73 4001; some I have seen are more opaque, like those on the white bass in question (MD1100).
I know about those inlay, but these look nothing like any I've seen, they look like the most consistently shaded mother of pearl, similar to fretdot material. Also, the board is unfinished which is never/rarely the case from the factory, especially when there are inlays.
Re: What is this?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:52 pm
by FabGearHead
It appears to be acrylic "MOP" that came into vogue when the guitar industry shifted away from celluloid. Also, note the filler in the pores. RIC always used a light colored pore filler in the fingerboards prior to applying the finish. I've seen some Ricks where the finish on the fingerboard peeled off very easily. I have had several owners ask me to dye their fingerboards darker, too!
Jim
Re: What is this?
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:19 am
by BobHyde
chefothefuture wrote:The type does say re-fin.... Perhaps white was not it's original color.
Didn't a forumite just sell a white re- fin a few months back?
That was mine:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=405524
I have seller's remorse...
Re: What is this?
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:48 am
by chefothefuture
I agree with Ivan about the unfinished board.
It's also been refretted as evidenced by the over
hung fret ends. The inlays look very white to me.
But I had a 73 where the inlays looked like binding
plastic under the finish so I can't venture a guess here...
Re: What is this?
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:31 pm
by godber
The description
says it's a refin and also
says that the fretboard was stripped when it was refret and the inlays are the type used by Rickenbacker on many basses at the time - just a quick check of the register will give confirmation. What's the mystery here?
73 inlays - like Jeff says
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1973-Ri ... 3f1ef4835e