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How far to detune a 12-string for shipment?

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:33 pm
by Folkie
The title of this thread is self-explanatory. How far down from concert pitch should the strings be before shipping?

Re: How far to detune a 12-string for shipment?

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:57 pm
by jps
0% or, at most, I may tune down ½ step. Keep in mind you do not want the floating bridge to float around, literally!

Re: How far to detune a 12-string for shipment?

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:15 pm
by collin
+1

Guitars are designed to have constant force applied from the strings. If you slacken the strings all the way, you're inviting the elements to have their way with the wood instead of using the string tension to keep the neck where it needs to be.

1/2 step down is a good rule, but it's not bad to keep them tensioned completely.

Re: How far to detune a 12-string for shipment?

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:39 pm
by teb
A couple of mine have been shipped from Wisconsin to Seattle and back tuned to pitch. When they arrived home, they were still amazing close to being in tune. John Hall has mentioned several times here on the forum that Rickenbacker suggests leaving them tuned up.

Re: How far to detune a 12-string for shipment?

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:00 pm
by kennyhowes
De-tuned, or not...PROTECT THE HEADSTOCK! This is key. No wiggle room within the case!

Re: How far to detune a 12-string for shipment?

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:25 pm
by JakeK
When I shipped a 660/12 back in 2009, I detuned a whole step. I made sure to have the headstock bubble-wrapped.

When my Telecaster was shipped to me, the strings were all the way slackened. Good thing it has a fixed bridge!

Re: How far to detune a 12-string for shipment?

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:50 pm
by jimk
teb wrote:A couple of mine have been shipped from Wisconsin to Seattle and back tuned to pitch. When they arrived home, they were still amazing close to being in tune. John Hall has mentioned several times here on the forum that Rickenbacker suggests leaving them tuned up.
My guitar was shipped from Santa Ana to a dealer in PA, and then to me in Lawrence, KS. It arrived in close to concert pitch, and no structural problems at all.
So I'd take Todd's and Mr. Hall's advice. And maybe wrap up the headstock in bubble wrap just to be safe.
JimK

Re: How far to detune a 12-string for shipment?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:17 am
by collin
kennyhowes wrote:De-tuned, or not...PROTECT THE HEADSTOCK! This is key. No wiggle room within the case!

Big +1

I can't tell ya how many times I've received a guitar, case perfectly packed in box with the guitar flopping around inside. :shock:

I always tell people shipping me stuff now - good packing begins inside the case.

Re: How far to detune a 12-string for shipment?

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:25 am
by Grey
I've had guitars arrive with strings and without strings, never had a problem with either.

Re: How far to detune a 12-string for shipment?

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:44 pm
by eatswodo
Mine arrived from Pick of the Ricks a couple of weeks ago, in near-perfect tune. It was bubble-wrapped too - not a millimeter of wriggle room.

Re: How far to detune a 12-string for shipment?

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:36 am
by Seans
collin wrote:
kennyhowes wrote:De-tuned, or not...PROTECT THE HEADSTOCK! This is key. No wiggle room within the case!

Big +1

I can't tell ya how many times I've received a guitar, case perfectly packed in box with the guitar flopping around inside. :shock:

I always tell people shipping me stuff now - good packing begins inside the case.
+1, it's the amount that the guitar can move that's the problem, so it's up to the buyer/seller to get the case packed accordingly, a scenario, if the case falls flat on it's face the neck will get a sudden extreme tune up, not good if you have a normal Ric case, if there's a modern HSC then it's not so bad, but even so I always ship/ask piece detuned a pitch, it won't do any harm.

My 64 arrived double boxed, but rattled around in the case, I think the blue velor gives an appearance of a lovely comfy sofa warm coffee etc :roll: