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Finish on a 4001CS
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:32 am
by jai_the_bass
I've just managed to snag myself a 4001CS (#100 according to the certificate). She's in reasonably good condition overall, but has "yellowed" due to being in a smoky studio for quite a large amount of time.
Is there anything on the market that will help restore her or is a refinish the only option?
Re: Finish on a 4001CS
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:55 pm
by Kopfjaeger
Kevin,
Sorry, just about every Chris Squire bass I've seen have all yellowed. Being in a smoky studio may have deposited a bit of grime on the finish but most white basses of that vintage and earlier have all accumulated that amber patina.
Sepp
Re: Finish on a 4001CS
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:33 pm
by JakeK
Call me crazy, but I actually like the yellowed Squire basses. It emphasizes the Cream color.
IIRC, there was a Squire bass once that wasn't yellow or white at all, it was orange!

Re: Finish on a 4001CS
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:39 pm
by Kopfjaeger
JakeK wrote:Call me crazy, but I actually like the yellowed Squire basses. It emphasizes the Cream color.
IIRC, there was a Squire bass once that wasn't yellow or white at all, it was orange!

+1, I agree Jake! I like the patina on the white vintage instruments as well as the amber Mapleglo takes on.
Sepp
Re: Finish on a 4001CS
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:16 pm
by jai_the_bass
Thanks for the info guys....I'll leave her as is for the time being.
I remember the "smokin" one from a few years back with the uniform "NicotineGlo" finish - I think it had been hung in a bar in Japan for about 15 or so years without being played.
Re: Finish on a 4001CS
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:20 pm
by doctorwho
Yep, IMO natural yellowing is cool.

- 1975 4001S WHT WT and 1998 4003 WHT WT White Binding
Re: Finish on a 4001CS
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 1:41 pm
by milo
Did somebody say banana pudding?
I'm assuming my '78 was white at one time, but it has aged very evenly and doesn't smell like smoke. I also like the color as it has aged.

Re: Finish on a 4001CS
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:11 pm
by jai_the_bass
milo wrote:Did somebody say banana pudding?
I'm assuming my '78 was white at one time, but it has aged very evenly and doesn't smell like smoke. I also like the color as it has aged.
That's pretty much the colour of the CS although you can get a faint "smoke" smell from the body
Re: Finish on a 4001CS
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:14 pm
by libratune
milo wrote:Did somebody say banana pudding?
I'm assuming my '78 was white at one time, but it has aged very evenly and doesn't smell like smoke. I also like the color as it has aged.

That's an "interesting" shape for the back of a 4001. Looks more like a 610/625 to me.
Re: Finish on a 4001CS
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:50 pm
by JakeK
jai_the_bass wrote:milo wrote:Did somebody say banana pudding?
I'm assuming my '78 was white at one time, but it has aged very evenly and doesn't smell like smoke. I also like the color as it has aged.
That's pretty much the colour of the CS although you can get a faint "smoke" smell from the body
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That looks good, I like it! Congrats!
Re: Finish on a 4001CS
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:17 pm
by sloop_john_b
libratune wrote:milo wrote:Did somebody say banana pudding?
I'm assuming my '78 was white at one time, but it has aged very evenly and doesn't smell like smoke. I also like the color as it has aged.

That's an "interesting" shape for the back of a 4001. Looks more like a 610/625 to me.
My money's on 450/12 with a black guard.

Re: Finish on a 4001CS
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:07 pm
by libratune
sloop_john_b wrote:
My money's on 450/12 with a black guard.

Good call. The '78 year is a clue that's not going to be a 610.
Here's a '79 450-12 in White with BT:
http://www.rickresource.com/register/vi ... p?id=28790
It could also be a 620-12, though. Here's one from 1980 White with BT:
http://www.rickresource.com/register/vi ... p?id=14678
Re: Finish on a 4001CS
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:32 pm
by johnallg
jai_the_bass wrote:milo wrote:Did somebody say banana pudding?
I'm assuming my '78 was white at one time, but it has aged very evenly and doesn't smell like smoke. I also like the color as it has aged.
That's pretty much the colour of the CS although you can get a faint "smoke" smell from the body
DSC01692ss.JPG
If you gave it the Swirl-X and Zymol treatment after stripping the hardware it should lighten up a bit but more importantly get rid of the smoke residue.
Re: Finish on a 4001CS
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:32 pm
by milo
It is indeed a 450-12...wasn't too hard to figure that out was it?
I just posted it because of the mention of the changing white color. I'm not sure if much of that is from smoke residue or not. I've owned it for about 10 years and it doesn't smell of smoke and the color change is pretty even nor does the finish feel gunky. Plus it's actually lighter in color in the exposed areas than it is under the pickguard.

Re: Finish on a 4001CS
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:48 am
by doctorwho
My 1975 4001S WHT WT is uniform in color, even under the pick guard:
AFAIK, it was never exposed to smoke (I'm the second owner, and I don't think that the original owner was a smoker).