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The CORRECT McCartney Conversion...

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:12 am
by congerz83
I have decided to dedicate a thread to the project I'm currently working on with Mark Walker.

I also chose to post it in BASS section instead of The Beatles section. I figured all the bass guys could get interested in this.

I sent my bass to mark to correct an neck twist & bow. Then I thought of someting... :idea:

I've decided turn THIS...

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[*]"Photos used by permission of Peter Levett"

Into THIS...

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Well to be truly authentic to ME, It'll be THIS...
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Into THIS...
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Yes. I'm taking the C64S to another level! This instrument will be an attempt to "carbon-copy" Paul's bass as it is today.

Darker "yellowing", more authentic body contours, thinner horn-shaping & every nick/scratch replicated...

And when I say "I'm working with Mark Walker on this" it should be "Mark does all of the great work he's known for, and I sometimes form sentences and speak to him about it.

I'm going to be proud to share this with you all...

Re: The CORRECT McCartney Conversion...

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:50 pm
by teeder
Cool! I can't wait to watch the process.

Re: The CORRECT McCartney Conversion...

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 2:42 pm
by ilan
Yep, they should have done it in Amber Mapleglo.

Cool project.

Re: The CORRECT McCartney Conversion...

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:08 pm
by johnallg
Actually, isn't Paul's bass in WoodGlo? :lol: I mean, isn't it unfinished wood?

Re: The CORRECT McCartney Conversion...

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:28 pm
by JM82
I received my copy of Paul's book the other day; the strings in that picture look like they have orange silks, which is the same as labella 760fx strings I have on my 4003S. McCartney is known to use labellas on his hofner and the 760fx set is the same gauge as the labella Beatle bass set he supposedly uses (39 - 96) just a longer scale. My theory is he has the 760fx set on the ric (unless anyone knows of other strings with orange silks). So if you're looking to make it a carbon copy, that's the set to get.

Re: The CORRECT McCartney Conversion...

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:21 pm
by ilan
James - McCartney's '63 Höfner has dark green silks.

Re: The CORRECT McCartney Conversion...

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:44 pm
by bigbajo60
(...setting microwave to "Popcorn" setting)
:D

Re: The CORRECT McCartney Conversion...

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:15 pm
by johnhall
johnallg wrote:Actually, isn't Paul's bass in WoodGlo? :lol: I mean, isn't it unfinished wood?
It is, which is to say Amber would be completely incorrect. SmudgeGlo or GrimeGlo would be more like it.

Re: The CORRECT McCartney Conversion...

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:11 pm
by bugman
I had a C64S years ago and am saving to get one again but while I loved the bass, I also wished it was more correct in shape,contour, and finish. I am going to watch this thread and will be interested in how close you get it to look like the present day McCartney RIC. Did you have to send the RIC away or is he located close to you?

Re: The CORRECT McCartney Conversion...

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:05 am
by paologregorio
johnhall wrote:
johnallg wrote:Actually, isn't Paul's bass in WoodGlo? :lol: I mean, isn't it unfinished wood?
It is, which is to say Amber would be completely incorrect. SmudgeGlo or GrimeGlo would be more like it.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I've encountered that; pick up a vintage instrument, and . . "Ewwww!"; it's part of the reason I don't like tobacco sunburst guitars-I've picked up too many old tobacco SB guitars that were completely gritty and filthy; now when I see one I just think, "yuck!"

Re: The CORRECT McCartney Conversion...

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:06 am
by aceonbass
One detail impossible to replicate will be the end of the fretboard's location relative to the upper and lower cutaways. RIC appears to have lengthened and moved the neck blank further forward to allow greater access to the higher frets. Since the scale length hasn't changed, this means the tailpiece is also slightly further forward. The pickguard, still resting up against the end of the fretboard, is now much closer to the cutaways. I personally don't care for the way this looks. As an aside, this would have been a good time to add a 21st fret, since the guard would have moved back closer to it's original position relative to the cutaways.

Re: The CORRECT McCartney Conversion...

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:59 am
by antipodean
aceonbass wrote:One detail impossible to replicate will be the end of the fretboard's location relative to the upper and lower cutaways. RIC appears to have lengthened and moved the neck blank further forward to allow greater access to the higher frets. Since the scale length hasn't changed, this means the tailpiece is also slightly further forward. The pickguard, still resting up against the end of the fretboard, is now much closer to the cutaways. I personally don't care for the way this looks. As an aside, this would have been a good time to add a 21st fret, since the guard would have moved back closer to it's original position relative to the cutaways.
It's been that way since at least 2000. The cutaways on my '00 V63 are about 1cm "deeper" relative to the fretboard than on my two '70s 4001s. I had never noticed until you mentioned it.....

Re: The CORRECT McCartney Conversion...

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:59 am
by JM82
ilan wrote:James - McCartney's '63 Höfner has dark green silks.
Maybe, but the 760fx set has orange silks. That set is not the Beatle bass set but it does use the same gauges and is also in the deep talkin range http://www.bassstringsonline.com/La-Bel ... _1726.html

Re: The CORRECT McCartney Conversion...

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:01 am
by ilan
JM82 wrote:Maybe,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaVcSuldAp8

Headstock closeup at 2:59.

Re: The CORRECT McCartney Conversion...

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:43 am
by JM82
ilan wrote:
JM82 wrote:Maybe,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaVcSuldAp8

Headstock closeup at 2:59.
Ok, definitely, :)