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Rick 450 body through vs set neck
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 3:57 pm
by danoadam
I'm interested in buying a vintage 450/12. Are these prone to having issues? Are the necks problematic and require resets often like the thinline Ricks made in the 60s? Is a body through neck construction preferable to the set neck version? Thanks
Re: Rick 450 body through vs set neck
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 4:43 pm
by collin
Through-neck construction does not suffer the same issues as set-neck guitars, neck lifting from the pocket etc.
Other than making sure the neck isn't twisting at all (which is rare, but happens), they're usually pretty stable guitars.
I don't know of any 450/12 models with a set neck. There were a few 425 6-string models built with a set neck that were sold under the "Electro" and "Ryder" student model lines, but most Rickenbacker 400-series guitars are neck-through, including the 12-strings.
IMO, they're a great deal on a vintage 12-string too, compared to the hollow body models.
Re: Rick 450 body through vs set neck
Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 5:56 am
by danoadam
Here's one I'm looking at. Appears to be a set neck..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331846338610?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT
Re: Rick 450 body through vs set neck
Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 8:52 am
by jdogric12
That should be a great guitar! Not a terrible price either.
Re: Rick 450 body through vs set neck
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 2:58 pm
by chronictown
There were occasional batches of 420/450/460 guitars with set necks, 1966 being the most common year as far as I've seen (early 70s was also a period for set necks). I've owned a few through-neck 400-series guitars but have never had the opportunity to try out a set-neck version...hope to get my hands on one some day. Good luck with the 450/12 MG, that is a beauty

Re: Rick 450 body through vs set neck
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 8:59 pm
by danoadam
Oh, I don't know if I'll go for that '66. I'm just doing a bit of research. I'd probably hold out for a neck through model, maybe even a more affordable 70s guitar. This is my '90 330/12 that is an exceptional player. There's just something about the sound and feel of older Ricks. Maybe if I add the bass cut cap on my guitar and put a toaster in the bridge position..

Re: Rick 450 body through vs set neck
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 9:47 pm
by Folkie
Re: Rick 450 body through vs set neck
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 11:12 pm
by Ric5150
danoadam wrote:Oh, I don't know if I'll go for that '66. I'm just doing a bit of research. I'd probably hold out for a neck through model, maybe even a more affordable 70s guitar. This is my '90 330/12 that is an exceptional player. There's just something about the sound and feel of older Ricks. Maybe if I add the bass cut cap on my guitar and put a toaster in the bridge position..
If you're not in a hurry, just keep an eye out. That '66 is priced at a premium for the condition. If you just want a solid player, you can probably pick up a 60's one for a lot less. A number of those auctioned-off the in past couple of years have been parted-out - sadly, these 400s are often more valuable as a group of parts than as an instrument. That makes for a really solid vintage Rick entry point.
I recently won an auction for an immaculately refinished '67 450S 6-str for $1100 - it's a really solid player, as well. Keep an eye out and you'll probably find a good deal - they're out there.
Re: Rick 450 body through vs set neck
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 12:50 pm
by xcoyle
I agree, I would hold out for a neck through. That guitar is in mint condition which is nice, but the price is fair at best. The neck through construction was a big advertising part of early Ric 400 series guitars, and one of the features that made them unique. My 2 cents.