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are these vintage toasters? '82 360/12 content

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:06 pm
by danoadam
This is an '82 360/12, the pickups have obviously been changed. These are vintage 60s toasters, right? I'm going to be selling the guitar, but I'm considering swapping the pups for hi-gains since that's what it came with originally and keeping the toasters for another guitar.

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Re: are these vintage toasters? '82 360/12 content

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 7:44 pm
by collin
I wouldn't necessarily say they're 60s toasters. But they look to be pre-1984.

Judging by the routing in the body they are original to the guitar, likely custom ordered with toasters (which I thinkwas an option for that period).

Re: are these vintage toasters? '82 360/12 content

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:19 pm
by danoadam
Considering the dark area underneath the pups I'm assuming there were hi-gains installed on this guitar for a long period and then these toasters were put in. I didn't realize you could custom order toasters back then, I thought they were phased out in the early 70s and then brought back (in the 90s?) as reissues..

Re: are these vintage toasters? '82 360/12 content

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:19 pm
by jps
Going by the darkened areas, I too, would expect that hi-gains with the foam cushions were originally on the guitar. I think those toasters may be the hot wound ones given the Phillips screws in the corners. Can you measure the DCR of those pickups, Adam?

Re: are these vintage toasters? '82 360/12 content

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:10 pm
by collin
Two facts you gents might not be aware of:

1.) Foam rings were standard from around 1970 until the mid-1980s, regardless of pickup type. See photo below of my '72 330/12 with original toasters. Foam rings...


2.) (and this is the big one) Since hi gain pickups have one large magnet attached to the bottom of the non-magnetic polepieces, they require a rectangular "swimming pool" pickup route in the body. Adam's guitar has the smaller oval route to fit the magnetic bobbins of a Toaster. Done believe me, just try and fit a hi gain! :P
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Re: are these vintage toasters? '82 360/12 content

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:24 pm
by jps
collin wrote:.. the smaller oval route to fit the magnetic bobbins of a Toaster. Done believe me, just try and fit a hi gain! :P
Send me a sample guitar and some pickups to do some experimenting, please! :mrgreen:

All the Rickenbacker guitars I have owned had toasters on them, except for the 730/12L (that may have had a hi-gain but I never could find it on that guitar :twisted: ).

Re: are these vintage toasters? '82 360/12 content

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:34 am
by godber
collin wrote:Two facts you gents might not be aware of:

1.) Foam rings were standard from around 1970 until the mid-1980s, regardless of pickup type. See photo below of my '72 330/12 with original toasters. Foam rings...


2.) (and this is the big one) Since hi gain pickups have one large magnet attached to the bottom of the non-magnetic polepieces, they require a rectangular "swimming pool" pickup route in the body. Adam's guitar has the smaller oval route to fit the magnetic bobbins of a Toaster. Done believe me, just try and fit a hi gain! :P
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You got that '72 BG Collin? Looked nice.

Re: are these vintage toasters? '82 360/12 content

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:17 pm
by collin
godber wrote:
collin wrote:Two facts you gents might not be aware of:

1.) Foam rings were standard from around 1970 until the mid-1980s, regardless of pickup type. See photo below of my '72 330/12 with original toasters. Foam rings...


2.) (and this is the big one) Since hi gain pickups have one large magnet attached to the bottom of the non-magnetic polepieces, they require a rectangular "swimming pool" pickup route in the body. Adam's guitar has the smaller oval route to fit the magnetic bobbins of a Toaster. Done believe me, just try and fit a hi gain! :P
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You got that '72 BG Collin? Looked nice.

Sure did, thanks Mark.

It plays even nicer! :P

Re: are these vintage toasters? '82 360/12 content

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:48 pm
by godber
Congrats!

Re: are these vintage toasters? '82 360/12 content

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:22 pm
by Ontario_RIC_fan
Collin is correct.

Middle of 1982 (July or August?) is when you could order Toasters again.

Same time as the B Series guitars came out - RIC was calling them "Chrome Bar" pick ups.
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I am not sure you could order them factory installed on anything other then the 320B, 360/12BWB and the 4003SB.

But the FC Hall era was more open to special requests - so who knows?