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Best Source for Accent Vibratos

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:38 pm
by larsongs
I'm considering putting one on my 360 6 String. But after looking a bit it looks like they are almost non existent? Id that right or is there a source?

Thanks,

L

Re: Best Source for Accent Vibratos

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:44 pm
by libratune

Re: Best Source for Accent Vibratos

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:35 am
by larsongs
Thanks. Just sent an inquiry to them.

Re: Best Source for Accent Vibratos

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:53 pm
by uusak
Complete Accent by Paul vibrato made for Rickenbacker guitars
https://reverb.com/item/3519503-complet ... er-guitars

Winfield has a listing for one on reverb.

Re: Best Source for Accent Vibratos

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:11 pm
by libratune
uusak wrote:Complete Accent by Paul vibrato made for Rickenbacker guitars
https://reverb.com/item/3519503-complet ... er-guitars

Winfield has a listing for one on reverb.
That's the vibrato with the "Accent by Paul" badge, which is the correct accent vibrato for a pre-1963 Rickenbacker.

Winfield also makes the post-1963 accent without the badge for less $$$.

Re: Best Source for Accent Vibratos

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:36 pm
by larsongs
What is the consensus of these Vibrato's? Good, Bad & Ugly.

My 360 build date is 3/93. Which one is correct for it?

Thanks,

Re: Best Source for Accent Vibratos

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:50 pm
by jps
larsongs wrote:...My 360 build date is 3/93. Which one is correct for it?

Thanks,
The right handed one without Paul's name on it.

Re: Best Source for Accent Vibratos

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:26 am
by jdogric12
Pros - period correct, and they do work

Cons - does not return to true pitch quite as good as a solid Bigsby, that sharp pointy arm can impale you

On Ricks, I like Accents. On everything else, Bigsbys. Except Strats of course - strats. The only "strat" i've ever liked is my Roland G-505.

Re: Best Source for Accent Vibratos

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:07 pm
by larsongs
jps wrote:
larsongs wrote:...My 360 build date is 3/93. Which one is correct for it?

Thanks,
The right handed one without Paul's name on it.
Thanks

Re: Best Source for Accent Vibratos

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:10 pm
by larsongs
jdogric12 wrote:Pros - period correct, and they do work

Cons - does not return to true pitch quite as good as a solid Bigsby, that sharp pointy arm can impale you

On Ricks, I like Accents. On everything else, Bigsbys. Except Strats of course - strats. The only "strat" i've ever liked is my Roland G-505.
My big concern is if it returns to pitch? I'm not a dive bomber. Except on, "Too Much To Dream" by The Electric Prunes. I use my Casino with Bigsby for that Tune.

Re: Best Source for Accent Vibratos

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:11 pm
by larsongs
larsongs wrote:What is the consensus of these Vibrato's? Good, Bad & Ugly.

My 360 build date is 3/93. Which one is correct for it?

Thanks,
Oops I made a typo. 3/96 is the correct date.

Re: Best Source for Accent Vibratos

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:52 pm
by Ric5150
In my experience, it works pretty much as well any other non-locking vibrato - Bigsby, Strat, Maestro, etc. Stretch your strings, lubricate the nut, make sure the nut slots are wide enough, and (of course) always tune up to pitch instead of down. If it doesn't quite come back you can pull up gently and that will often at least get you close.

The drawback compared to some other types is that you can pretty readily replace the springs on a Bigsby or Strat. Like the Maestro, you might have to buy a new unit to get a new spring.

One "Pro" Jason left out is the fact that it's a completely reversible mod - provided you don't relocate the strap button hole. I'd recommend also getting Winfield's adapter bracket while you're at it. That makes things line up properly with the stock hole location. A 330/360 or 350 isn't terrible without it (600s are), but the adapter helps. If you don't know what I'm talking about, Winfield will. :)

Re: Best Source for Accent Vibratos

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:48 am
by jdogric12
Ric5150 wrote:In my experience, it works pretty much as well any other non-locking vibrato - Bigsby, Strat, Maestro, etc. Stretch your strings, lubricate the nut, make sure the nut slots are wide enough, and (of course) always tune up to pitch instead of down. If it doesn't quite come back you can pull up gently and that will often at least get you close.

The drawback compared to some other types is that you can pretty readily replace the springs on a Bigsby or Strat. Like the Maestro, you might have to buy a new unit to get a new spring.

One "Pro" Jason left out is the fact that it's a completely reversible mod - provided you don't relocate the strap button hole. I'd recommend also getting Winfield's adapter bracket while you're at it. That makes things line up properly with the stock hole location. A 330/360 or 350 isn't terrible without it (600s are), but the adapter helps. If you don't know what I'm talking about, Winfield will. :)
All excellent points, thanks Dan!

Re: Best Source for Accent Vibratos

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:50 am
by Ric5150
jdogric12 wrote:
Ric5150 wrote:In my experience, it works pretty much as well any other non-locking vibrato - Bigsby, Strat, Maestro, etc. Stretch your strings, lubricate the nut, make sure the nut slots are wide enough, and (of course) always tune up to pitch instead of down. If it doesn't quite come back you can pull up gently and that will often at least get you close.

The drawback compared to some other types is that you can pretty readily replace the springs on a Bigsby or Strat. Like the Maestro, you might have to buy a new unit to get a new spring.

One "Pro" Jason left out is the fact that it's a completely reversible mod - provided you don't relocate the strap button hole. I'd recommend also getting Winfield's adapter bracket while you're at it. That makes things line up properly with the stock hole location. A 330/360 or 350 isn't terrible without it (600s are), but the adapter helps. If you don't know what I'm talking about, Winfield will. :)
All excellent points, thanks Dan!
Aww, shucks.... :oops:

One other subtle thing I forgot to mention is that when I string a guitar with a vibrato, I usually wind the strings 'up' on the posts to take a little of the nut break angle out. Less down force on the nut means less friction force. (On non-vibrato guitars I tend to wind 'down' to get more break angle.). I'm not sure where I picked that up. I think it may have been a Van Halen thing - talking about the days before locking trems.

To me, it seems to help. There are many opinions on winding up vs down. Maybe try it yourself some time and see.

Re: Best Source for Accent Vibratos

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:43 am
by larsongs
When you say it's a completely reversible mod does that mean no new holes need to be drilled? With the adapter.

Just the End Pin screw hole is the only place that requires a Screw & that's it?