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Care and feeding of a 4003W or 4003SW?
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:40 pm
by squirebass
I was just wondering what some of the worthy forumites have to say about caring for one of those satin finished walnut basses? Do you oil them regularly? How well is the finish protected ? Are they the same price as other basses in the 4003/4003S series, or do dealers usually charge a little extra for them? I find them intriguing...
Thanks
Re: Care and feeding of a 4003W or 4003SW?
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:00 pm
by T28
I think the sound great. Haven't really oiled or polished it since I got it and the finish still looks great. Waiting to hear from the experts and see if I need to do anything.
Re: Care and feeding of a 4003W or 4003SW?
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:25 pm
by woodyng
I bought my Cheyenne in May 2014,and did the Watco's Danish oil treatment on it around that time.it made a huge difference in the appearance at the time. I haven't done it again,since,as it hasn't seemed to need it.
Maybe on the 3rd anniversary coming up in a few monthes.....
Re: Care and feeding of a 4003W or 4003SW?
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:56 pm
by squirebass
woodyng wrote:I bought my Cheyenne in May 2014,and did the Watco's Danish oil treatment on it around that time.it made a huge difference in the appearance at the time. I haven't done it again,since,as it hasn't seemed to need it.
Maybe on the 3rd anniversary coming up in a few monthes.....
Woody, when you did that, did you do the maple, or just the Walnut? I really like the 4003S in Walnut, looks really good with the Walnut body wings. Played a 4003 W the other day, and it was no slouch either! I was just wondering if the neck would show wear and dirt more than the other, highly varnished finishes...
Re: Care and feeding of a 4003W or 4003SW?
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:05 pm
by jps
woodyng wrote:I bought my Cheyenne in May 2014,and did the Watco's Danish oil treatment on it around that time.it made a huge difference in the appearance at the time. I haven't done it again,since,as it hasn't seemed to need it.
Maybe on the 3rd anniversary coming up in a few monthes.....
We'll let you know when you can come over and give the treatment to our (coming soon........) 165 Sq. Ft. of quarter sawn white oak wainscoting in the dining room......................
Plus, all the window and door trim, and crown moulding, thanks!

Re: Care and feeding of a 4003W or 4003SW?
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:11 am
by jdogric12
I have a 380L PZ, and have owned several of the older walnut models like 380's and 650's. They very rarely need oiling! Maybe every few years... if that. You only need to do it when you notice it looking kind of dried out, I guess. I think I only ever did one once. But then, I've owned very few guitars longer than a few years!

Re: Care and feeding of a 4003W or 4003SW?
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:36 am
by squirebass
jdogric12 wrote:I have a 380L PZ, and have owned several of the older walnut models like 380's and 650's. They very rarely need oiling! Maybe every few years... if that. You only need to do it when you notice it looking kind of dried out, I guess. I think I only ever did one once. But then, I've owned very few guitars longer than a few years!

Thanks Jason,
Was there any issue with the maple boards showing dirt or wear? I'm assuming they are sealed and finished to the degree that this issue is minimized, but I remember the story I heard about Leo Fender seeing the maple boards of his early teles and strats, and using rosewood subsequently... I really like the 4003SW, that finish has really grown on me lately, just wondered if the light fretboard was any problem.
Re: Care and feeding of a 4003W or 4003SW?
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:42 am
by woodyng
squirebass wrote:woodyng wrote:I bought my Cheyenne in May 2014,and did the Watco's Danish oil treatment on it around that time.it made a huge difference in the appearance at the time. I haven't done it again,since,as it hasn't seemed to need it.
Maybe on the 3rd anniversary coming up in a few monthes.....
Woody, when you did that, did you do the maple, or just the Walnut? I really like the 4003S in Walnut, looks really good with the Walnut body wings. Played a 4003 W the other day, and it was no slouch either! I was just wondering if the neck would show wear and dirt more than the other, highly varnished finishes...
It was a "strings-off" entire body/neck clean up. The maple fretboard does unfortunately show grime pretty well.
When i bought my bass used,it had a fair amount of "ick" on the frets,so i used a bit of steel wool to clean them with the oil,and most of the discoloration on the fretboard came off. The feel of that neck is wonderful.
Re: Care and feeding of a 4003W or 4003SW?
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:23 am
by 12stringbassist
I've cleaned my 4003W fingerboard with a VERY slightly damp scourer (and a very light touch) to get the muck off it and dried it immediately after doing it.
It took seconds and it comes up a treat.

Re: Care and feeding of a 4003W or 4003SW?
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:48 am
by Gilmourisgod
Watco Danish is stupid easy to use, but it never gets beyond a satin sheen. I remember seeing a photo of a 4003w with a gloss finish, but it was a one-off. I thought it really popped the grain. Tru-Oil can be buffed to a pretty high gloss if you put on enough coats. Does anybody know what the actual oil finish used is?
Re: Care and feeding of a 4003W or 4003SW?
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:32 am
by jdogric12
12stringbassist wrote:I've cleaned my 4003W fingerboard with a VERY slightly damp scourer (and a very light touch) to get the muck off it and dried it immediately after doing it.
It took seconds and it comes up a treat.

I've noticed that these seem to come pre-loaded with soap.. I'd avoid those!
Re: Care and feeding of a 4003W or 4003SW?
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:27 pm
by jps
Just wet and squeeze them a bunch of time to clear them of the soap.
NO innuendos, here!

Re: Care and feeding of a 4003W or 4003SW?
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:42 pm
by 12stringbassist
No soap in the ones we have.

Just a tiny bit of water and a wipe over the fingerboard, then another wipe to dry the board worked a treat