Rickresource Rickenbacker Forum

FYI, I’ve just bought the Ric twin jack plate H3 6200 for my parts box (via another forum).

I went to enter it onto the Register, but it’s already there.

Is there a mechanism to change registration details?

I believe the bass was parted out by The Butcher Of New Jersey.

My intention is to use it, along with other Ric parts I have to build a custom bass which won’t look like any known Ric but should sound like one…

There are others (including apparently well-recommended luthiers), who switch jack plates during repair works, leaving some customers with one that doesn't belong to their instrument, indicating an incorrect year of manufacture by RIC, consequently, it's difficult if not impossible to register the instrument here.

The perpetrator knows who he is, others may be surprised, but that's all I'm saying on this site....

Ash

Well anyway, I've got it registered here, so it's above board...

My $0.02 would be to leave the register as is. The purpose is to document how Ricks were made, and the serial number does that best for its original guitar, not your new project, which (as cool as I'm sure it is) does nothing to further the purpose of the register. So I think just leaving it as is is probably best.

jdogric12 wrote:My $0.02 would be to leave the register as is. The purpose is to document how Ricks were made, and the serial number does that best for its original guitar, not your new project, which (as cool as I'm sure it is) does nothing to further the purpose of the register. So I think just leaving it as is is probably best.

Fully agree, here. The original history of the S/N is what should be preserved.

Winfield Vintage sells unstamped reproduction jack plates. You should purchase one of those for your project and sell the actual RIC part to someone who can use it on a Rickenbacker.

aceonbass wrote:Winfield Vintage sells unstamped reproduction jack plates. You should purchase one of those for your project and sell the actual RIC part to someone who can use it on a Rickenbacker.

Hmmm, the Ric it belonged to has been parted out, so surely putting it on another one would be invalid?

jdogric12 wrote:My $0.02 would be to leave the register as is. The purpose is to document how Ricks were made, and the serial number does that best for its original guitar, not your new project, which (as cool as I'm sure it is) does nothing to further the purpose of the register. So I think just leaving it as is is probably best.

Is that the aim of the register?

I would say that having somebody authenticate that they actually have the plate with the s/n on it is more valid than hearsay that it was seen on ebay.

(My project is an aside which may or may not be relevant to someone, depending upon their interest.)

prowla wrote:

aceonbass wrote:Winfield Vintage sells unstamped reproduction jack plates. You should purchase one of those for your project and sell the actual RIC part to someone who can use it on a Rickenbacker.

Hmmm, the Ric it belonged to has been parted out, so surely putting it on another one would be invalid?

Perhaps, but it would still be an authentic plate that could be used as a core to send into Rickenbacker for a replacement "XX" plate whose serial number would then be associated with a specific instrument in RIC's files. It's also worth more than the Winfield plate, so you'd make a little profit too.

I bought a blank jack plate from Winfield and got my local luthier to stamp the genuine SN of my bass into it - naturally he wanted to see evidence that the SN actually belonged to my bass, which I provided. I still have the bogus one and, if I ever find out who's bass it really belongs to, I'd happily send it to them, free of charge.

Ash

aceonbass wrote:

prowla wrote:

aceonbass wrote:Winfield Vintage sells unstamped reproduction jack plates. You should purchase one of those for your project and sell the actual RIC part to someone who can use it on a Rickenbacker.

Hmmm, the Ric it belonged to has been parted out, so surely putting it on another one would be invalid?

Perhaps, but it would still be an authentic plate that could be used as a core to send into Rickenbacker for a replacement "XX" plate whose serial number would then be associated with a specific instrument in RIC's files. It's also worth more than the Winfield plate, so you'd make a little profit too.

Well, if the genuine owner of the bass could tally them up and wanted it, I'd probably be happy to do the trade and make a few bob.

Alternatively, I may find that I buy a barebones Ric to do up myself; that's not beyond the realms of possibility.

In all honesty, I think the gibsondependable bloke should keep the jack plate with the bass when he parts them out!

But the thing about me posting it here is that it's all above board for folks to see, which I think is at least part of the aim of the Register.

Paul:

I don't represent the Register, I just contribute to it.

Typically when we find a non RIC with an authentic RIC jackplate on it we mark it as fake in the register. Even an authentic RIC with a different jackplate on it gets flagged as fake.

The purpose of the entry for a butchered RIC is to show what the original instrument looked like before it was parted out.

There have been a few instances here where people have tried to restore these RICS and in theory having images of what the instrument looked like originally can be useful. Also at least one person was able to figure out what the SN was for his carcass, because we track butchered instruments so closely.

I assume Peter assigned the register entry to your account, so in the end, that is his call.

But I agree that an unstamped jackplate is more honest.

So there is that to consider.

Ontario_RIC_fan wrote:Paul:

I don't represent the Register, I just contribute to it.

Typically when we find a non RIC with an authentic RIC jackplate on it we mark it as fake in the register. Even an authentic RIC with a different jackplate on it gets flagged as fake.

The purpose of the entry for a butchered RIC is to show what the original instrument looked like before it was parted out.

There have been a few instances here where people have tried to restore these RICS and in theory having images of what the instrument looked like originally can be useful. Also at least one person was able to figure out what the SN was for his carcass, because we track butchered instruments so closely.

I assume Peter assigned the register entry to your account, so in the end, that is his call.

But I agree that an unstamped jackplate is more honest.

So there is that to consider.

OK; well, if someone has pics of the original Ric, then I'd be happy for them to be associated with the jack plate.

As it stands, since that's the only place where the s/n is stamped, it could well be a difficult process.

But heck, as I said, I wouldn't even object to coming to an arrangement to reunite it with its original body if the opportunity arose and bonafides were established - that would surely be within the spirit of the Register and forum.