Rickresource Rickenbacker Forum

I visited Lark Street Music in Teaneck NJ (USA) last week (larkstreetmusic.com).

They have a simply gorgeous 4001CS with a real autograph from Chris Squire.

This is the listing from their web site:

*RICKENBACKER 4001 CS, 1991, Limited Edition Chris Squire model, actual signature
on pickguard along with the Factory one, off white, near mint, ohsc, certificate....$4900

If you're interested, give them a call: 201.287.1959

http://larkstreetmusic.com/list/pict/CSsigned.jpg

Autographs on instruments lower the potential value, to me. I don't find them to be an "enhancement".

jps wrote:Autographs on instruments lower the potential value, to me. I don't find them to be an "enhancement".

Fortunately for you, this hand-signed autograph is on the pickguard. Replace the pickguard - maybe stick it in a drawer to preserve its condition - and it's gone!

K4 4795

Cert No 274

Built November 1, 1991.

http://www.rickresource.com/register/vi ... =51414&bl=

We have 222 of the 1000 built in the register now.. So just over 20%.

Ontario_RIC_fan wrote:We have 222 of the 1000 built in the register now.. So just over 20%.

IIRC it has been determined that somewhere between 800-900 had only been built. So, more than ~20% possibly.

jps wrote:Autographs on instruments lower the potential value, to me. I don't find them to be an "enhancement".

+1!

Maybe on the back of the peghead would be ok, but not showing.

LenMinNJ wrote:

jps wrote:Autographs on instruments lower the potential value, to me. I don't find them to be an "enhancement".

Fortunately for you, this hand-signed autograph is on the pickguard. Replace the pickguard - maybe stick it in a drawer to preserve its condition - and it's gone!

A big part of what makes a 4001CS a limited edition instrument is that pickguard. Other than that, the fingerboard and headstock wings, and paint jobs are the only things that distinguish a CS model from a V63 model. I'll take the V63 for a third the price thanks, if there is no um-modified Sig pickguard on the bass.

I was curious about the skipped serials and analyzed the data:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/he4s8yx6yesz7 ... .xlsx?dl=0

Yep, the huge gap from 882 to 990 is highly suspect. Spreadsheets rule!

How about a lefty CS?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rickenbacker-40 ... SwDMhZrYai


Sn = A99814

Cert no. 594

Date of Build: January 15, 1996.

It is in the register already from 1999 listed as being in New Zealand. It was not marked as a Lefty though.

So perhaps this one has the certificate for the other guy's bass? (No image of the jackplate to confirm alas). A mystery.

jdogric12 wrote:I was curious about the skipped serials and analyzed the data:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/he4s8yx6yesz7 ... .xlsx?dl=0

Yep, the huge gap from 882 to 990 is highly suspect. Spreadsheets rule!

So... Where DID those missing CS basses get off to? Perhaps they reside with the Sasquatch in the wilderness of the Great Northwest? Maybe they are with Elvis on the mother-ship? RIC Enthusiasts want the truth. Watch for my special series coming soon to the History Channel this fall...

squirebass wrote:

jdogric12 wrote:I was curious about the skipped serials and analyzed the data:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/he4s8yx6yesz7 ... .xlsx?dl=0

Yep, the huge gap from 882 to 990 is highly suspect. Spreadsheets rule!

So... Where DID those missing CS basses get off to? Perhaps they reside with the Sasquatch in the wilderness of the Great Northwest? Maybe they are with Elvis on the mother-ship? RIC Enthusiasts want the truth. Watch for my special series coming soon to the History Channel this fall...

Insert "I'm not saying it was aliens... but it was aliens" meme here

jps wrote:

LenMinNJ wrote:

jps wrote:Autographs on instruments lower the potential value, to me. I don't find them to be an "enhancement".

Fortunately for you, this hand-signed autograph is on the pickguard. Replace the pickguard - maybe stick it in a drawer to preserve its condition - and it's gone!

A big part of what makes a 4001CS a limited edition instrument is that pickguard. Other than that, the fingerboard and headstock wings, and paint jobs are the only things that distinguish a CS model from a V63 model. I'll take the V63 for a third the price thanks, if there is no um-modified Sig pickguard on the bass.

So other than the pickguard, the paint, the body, the shape, the wings... Yes it's pretty much the same.
Other than the shape, the number of strings and the pickup, my Rickenbacker is a Les Paul you know.

Nop wrote: So other than the pickguard, the paint, the body, the shape, the wings... Yes it's pretty much the same.
Other than the shape, the number of strings and the pickup, my Rickenbacker is a Les Paul you know.

You have so twisted, dude. A 4001CS is a dressed up 4001V63.

Explain how you can't tell the difference between your Rickenbacker and a Les Paul. What you said is beyond stupid.

Because all the bullsh*t you throw in our faces since the beginning of this thread isn't stupid?

Since the beginning of the world, every item you buy with a signature on it is higher priced (I'm not saying that I'm ok with it). But when it's a 4001CS, if there is a real signature on the same pickguard as the printed one, it lowered his value? And the only thing that give value to a CS is the printed signature on the pickguard?
Yes I must be the stupid one in this case

I'm not waiting for a reply because I already know that "you are right, and we all are wrong"