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1969 4001 Missing Link or Not Original

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:25 am
by teeder
I'm not sure if anyone caught this bass on ebay a few days ago.

http://www.rickresource.com/register/vi ... 6order%3D5

It's got some very strange features for a '69.
The older style tuners, horseshoe pu and a surround with a slight tail to it.

I believe at one point it was owned by a member here.

What say you?

Re: 1969 4001 Missing Link or Not Original

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:18 pm
by aceonbass
The bridge pickup bezel is from a lapsteel, and it looks like a refin to me. I'd like to see under the guard and truss rod cover.

Re: 1969 4001 Missing Link or Not Original

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:24 pm
by opticnerve
Kevin,

It's a Dale re-fin with a Lollar HS pu. Once owned by John "chef of the future" Fay.

Lots of info missing in the description. I think the buyer got tooked.

Re: 1969 4001 Missing Link or Not Original

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:33 pm
by teeder
It looked too good to be true.

Re: 1969 4001 Missing Link or Not Original

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:21 am
by teeder
I'm pretty bummed about this one, though as I said, I knew it was too good to be true.
I was in talks with the seller and basically had it on hold until I could get more information.
Does anyone know what pictures if any were in the register before they ebay pictures were put in there?
That's one of the places I went for info, but it had been updated with the new pictures and no mention of it being refinished.

Re: 1969 4001 Missing Link or Not Original

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:18 am
by jps
teeder wrote:Does anyone know what pictures if any were in the register before they ebay pictures were put in there?
That's one of the places I went for info, but it had been updated with the new pictures and no mention of it being refinished.
This is one of the major flaws with the register, when a person decides to register a COLLECTED item. They potentially provide/infect the register with problem childs such as this bass in question.

Re: 1969 4001 Missing Link or Not Original

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:46 am
by admin
Point taken but only if the collector decides to change the photos from the previous ones, Jeffrey. :) There is no way to know for sure what changes have been made to an instrument after it leaves the Factory.

Re: 1969 4001 Missing Link or Not Original

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:01 pm
by teeder
It was originally registered in 2009.
I wonder if there were pictures from before it was refinished and if those were deleted when the new pictures were loaded?

Re: 1969 4001 Missing Link or Not Original

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:33 pm
by libratune
I updated the Register on this 4001 after seeing the ebay ad with the serial number. There were no photos of the bass in the Register entry.

After I updated it, I had a suspicion as to who the prior owner was, and contacted him. He told me that the bass had been refinished and other mods made.

I have added this additional information to the entry for this bass on the Register.

Re: 1969 4001 Missing Link or Not Original

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:19 am
by teeder
Thanks Ron.

Re: 1969 4001 Missing Link or Not Original

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:54 am
by admin
Nice Columbo, Ron!

Re: 1969 4001 Missing Link or Not Original

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:40 pm
by teeder
It will be interesting to see how it's described if it's re-listed.
The seller claimed he was selling on consignment and that when he told the owner it had been refinished and parts changed out, he was devastated.

Re: 1969 4001 Missing Link or Not Original

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:04 pm
by chefothefuture
It was a JG re-fin. And a poor one at that.
Good Guys had it and I bought it from them in 2006.
There is a picture of Mike Lull's basses and this one is in it. I don't know when it was taken.
I still have the pick guard that came on it. I also have the boogered bobbin that was in the HS.

Dale did a great job on the refin.

Re: 1969 4001 Missing Link or Not Original

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:00 pm
by teeder
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Rickenbac ... SwlyVePBCd

It's back and with no mention of the changed parts and re-fin. :roll: