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Where else can I get a 4004 switch?
Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:08 am
by lumgimfong
Looks like shipping from Ric to my house is 29$.
So I need to find it elsewhere but not sure which C&K switch is the right one.
I know SPDT ON/ON/ON but not sure volts and amps.
Any recommendations where I can get it and which switch is the correct one?
Or better yet a mini open switch like the ones 4003 uses.
The stock 4003 switches are big and I accidentally hit them with my hand sometimes.
Re: Where else can I get a 4004 switch?
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:30 am
by blueflamerick
You can find then all over the internet.
Here's what's embossed on each side of the switch:
7211
C&K
USA
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ON-ON-ON
2A 250VA
5A 120VAC
Re: Where else can I get a 4004 switch?
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:09 am
by lumgimfong
Thanks, that's what I needed to know. I could not see the other side of the switch pictured on Rics site for the specs.
Re: Where else can I get a 4004 switch?
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 2:53 pm
by espidog
lumgimfong wrote:I know SPDT ON/ON/ON but not sure volts and amps.
Fortunately, for this purpose those parameters don't matter. The instrument signals are in millivolts and microamps.

Re: Where else can I get a 4004 switch?
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 2:57 pm
by lumgimfong
Thanks, Ken!
Actually I think I am just gonna use a servicable switch like the 4003 comes with after all.
I don't know anything about electronics. I just attach stuff together based on diagrams and mechanical understanding but I don't understand how electricity actually works. haha!
Re: Where else can I get a 4004 switch?
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:28 pm
by doctorwho
You might check whether a Gibson switch would work, as sometimes the local guitar shops will stock Gibson (as well as Fender) parts.
https://www.switchcraft.com/Product.aspx?ID=3341
https://www.switchcraft.com/Drawings/12013X_CD.pdf
Re: Where else can I get a 4004 switch?
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:15 pm
by jps
lumgimfong wrote:Actually I think I am just gonna use a servicable switch like the 4003 comes with after all.
Is there adequate room, without modification, for a 4003 type Switchcraft leaf switch in the control cavity of a 4004?
Re: Where else can I get a 4004 switch?
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:43 am
by lumgimfong
Excellent point.
But I forgot to mention there is Tons of room cuz this is a 4003 bass that has a 4004 style harness in it like on my avatar.
Re: Where else can I get a 4004 switch?
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:43 am
by jps
lumgimfong wrote:Excellent point.
But I forgot to mention there is Tons of room cuz this is a 4003 bass that has a 4004 style harness in it like on my avatar.
Why did you replace the Switchcraft with a C&K? Or, did someone else do that previous to your ownership of the bass?
I made up a harness many years ago on a Pickguardian pickguard for my July '73 4001 that was VVT along with a .0047µF cap shunt switch (C&K). The bass is now with a friend of mine but I still have that pickguard with the harness on it.
Re: Where else can I get a 4004 switch?
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:28 am
by lumgimfong
When I first got my 2016 4003 the electronics were crazy noisy with AC hum and RF noise. As loud as the signal sound.
Tech said nothing wrong, electronics and welds good but just a noisy single coil system.
Also, I didn't like so many knobs, coming from a one pickup background.
So I shielded up the cavity, put two HB1 hum buckers in, and did up a new one volume, one tone, one selector harness.
It was fine for the last few years, but either my neck pup or the selector not working now. I am diagnosing now to see what the issue is and was thinking what to replace the switch with if it is bad. Open Switchcraft or closed C&K? I am hoping though that it is just a bad wire connection somewhere though.
Re: Where else can I get a 4004 switch?
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:27 am
by doctorwho
Another possible source for an equivalent switch might be Angela Electronics:
https://www.angela.com/
I didn't check all of their guitar parts (there are ten pages), but they do have a wide variety of parts, might be worth a look-through.
Re: Where else can I get a 4004 switch?
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:05 am
by lumgimfong
Haha! I used to work there back in the ‘80’s. I shoulda thought of that!
Re: Where else can I get a 4004 switch?
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:52 am
by cheyenne
4004 pickup selector switch? I should have one in my parts box. I'll look tonight.