NGD! Vintage 360/12 Fireglo (A Paul W restoration)

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NGD! Vintage 360/12 Fireglo (A Paul W restoration)

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I just purchased a completely restored vintage Rickenbacker 12 string in Fireglo from a fellow forum member. It has replacement parts but it’s a complete restoration by Paul W. It is crazy how thin the top is! The serial number is from 1967 but it is believed to be a 1965 body with a 67 neck. ImageUntitled by miked_austin, on Flickr
ImageUntitled by miked_austin, on Flickr
ImageUntitled by miked_austin, on Flickr
325c64 JG,325c58 JG, 325/12v63 JG, 350v63 JG, 1996 FG, 360/12c63 FG, 360/6 Carl Wilson FG, 1993Plus FG, 660/12 FG, 425 FG (1965), 360/12 FG (1965/67)
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Beautiful! :D
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That's a stunner. Why do I find it funny that, with all that restoration work, it doesn't have vintage black knobs lol ?
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steverok wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 8:09 am That's a stunner. Why do I find it funny that, with all that restoration work, it doesn't have vintage black knobs lol ?
I do prefer the black knobs myself, but the chrome top became the norm in 1964/65 I believe. My Carl Wilson 360/6 LE also came with them standard in 2000.
325c64 JG,325c58 JG, 325/12v63 JG, 350v63 JG, 1996 FG, 360/12c63 FG, 360/6 Carl Wilson FG, 1993Plus FG, 660/12 FG, 425 FG (1965), 360/12 FG (1965/67)
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steverok wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 8:09 am That's a stunner. Why do I find it funny that, with all that restoration work, it doesn't have vintage black knobs lol ?
Because it would be really poor restoration work to use the wrong type of knobs for this guitar.

Not only does it have the correct silver-topped knobs, it has the early (pre-67) DASH indicator type of Kurz Kasch knobs (which changed to a dot sometime in 1967).

"Vintage" style black knobs were never used on round-top "New Style" 360 models. In fact, the silver-top knobs debuted with these guitars in September 1964.
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collin wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 1:34 pm
steverok wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 8:09 am That's a stunner. Why do I find it funny that, with all that restoration work, it doesn't have vintage black knobs lol ?
Because it would be really poor restoration work to use the wrong type of knobs for this guitar.

Not only does it have the correct silver-topped knobs, it has the early (pre-67) DASH indicator type of Kurz Kasch knobs (which changed to a dot sometime in 1967).

"Vintage" style black knobs were never used on round-top "New Style" 360 models. In fact, the silver-top knobs debuted with these guitars in September 1964.
Thanks for the information, Collin. I knew there were some subtle differences in the knobs but wasn’t sure when they switched from the dash type to the dot.
325c64 JG,325c58 JG, 325/12v63 JG, 350v63 JG, 1996 FG, 360/12c63 FG, 360/6 Carl Wilson FG, 1993Plus FG, 660/12 FG, 425 FG (1965), 360/12 FG (1965/67)
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It looks fantastic!
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scoobster28 wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 4:43 pm It looks fantastic!
Thanks! And it sounds as great as it looks.
325c64 JG,325c58 JG, 325/12v63 JG, 350v63 JG, 1996 FG, 360/12c63 FG, 360/6 Carl Wilson FG, 1993Plus FG, 660/12 FG, 425 FG (1965), 360/12 FG (1965/67)
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that’s hot
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collin wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 1:34 pm...it has the early (pre-67) DASH indicator type of Kurz Kasch knobs (which changed to a dot sometime in 1967).
Interesting information here. These are the knobs that came on my former '67 330.
1967 Vintage Knobs-800_2159.jpg
330-1200_7093.jpg
Body_1200_7094.jpg
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jps wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 9:11 pm
collin wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 1:34 pm...it has the early (pre-67) DASH indicator type of Kurz Kasch knobs (which changed to a dot sometime in 1967).
Interesting information here. These are the knobs that came on my former '67 330.

1967 Vintage Knobs-800_2159.jpg
330-1200_7093.jpg
Body_1200_7094.jpg
In checking out the close up picture of those knobs, it looks like the bass volume and tone knobs have the dash and the treble volume and tone knobs have the dots. I didn’t notice any difference at first, but had to zoom in to tell. Cool.
325c64 JG,325c58 JG, 325/12v63 JG, 350v63 JG, 1996 FG, 360/12c63 FG, 360/6 Carl Wilson FG, 1993Plus FG, 660/12 FG, 425 FG (1965), 360/12 FG (1965/67)
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jps wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 9:11 pm
collin wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 1:34 pm...it has the early (pre-67) DASH indicator type of Kurz Kasch knobs (which changed to a dot sometime in 1967).
Interesting information here. These are the knobs that came on my former '67 330.

1967 Vintage Knobs-800_2159.jpg
330-1200_7093.jpg
Body_1200_7094.jpg
Perfectly normal for 1967 and even early 1968, the change was transitioned in (starting in 1967), not an abrupt change.

They are typically all dot knobs from late '68 onward.
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Yep, I've got a March 1967 336 with dash dot dot dash. Maybe they were sneaking Morse code to someone! :lol:
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Here’s another side by side with my Carl Wilson 360/6.
ImageUntitled by miked_austin, on Flickr
325c64 JG,325c58 JG, 325/12v63 JG, 350v63 JG, 1996 FG, 360/12c63 FG, 360/6 Carl Wilson FG, 1993Plus FG, 660/12 FG, 425 FG (1965), 360/12 FG (1965/67)
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