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NGD! Vintage 360/12 Fireglo (A Paul W restoration)
Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 4:21 pm
by mike_d
I just purchased a completely restored vintage Rickenbacker 12 string in Fireglo from a fellow forum member. It has replacement parts but it’s a complete restoration by Paul W. It is crazy how thin the top is! The serial number is from 1967 but it is believed to be a 1965 body with a 67 neck.
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Re: NGD! Vintage 360/12 Fireglo (A Paul W restoration)
Posted: Mon May 01, 2023 8:37 pm
by jps
Beautiful!
Re: NGD! Vintage 360/12 Fireglo (A Paul W restoration)
Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 8:09 am
by steverok
That's a stunner. Why do I find it funny that, with all that restoration work, it doesn't have vintage black knobs lol ?
Re: NGD! Vintage 360/12 Fireglo (A Paul W restoration)
Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 8:18 am
by admin
A real corker, Mike!
Re: NGD! Vintage 360/12 Fireglo (A Paul W restoration)
Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 9:04 am
by mike_d
steverok wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 8:09 am
That's a stunner. Why do I find it funny that, with all that restoration work, it doesn't have vintage black knobs lol ?
I do prefer the black knobs myself, but the chrome top became the norm in 1964/65 I believe. My Carl Wilson 360/6 LE also came with them standard in 2000.
Re: NGD! Vintage 360/12 Fireglo (A Paul W restoration)
Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 1:34 pm
by collin
steverok wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 8:09 am
That's a stunner. Why do I find it funny that, with all that restoration work, it doesn't have vintage black knobs lol ?
Because it would be really poor restoration work to use the wrong type of knobs for this guitar.
Not only does it have the correct silver-topped knobs, it has the early (pre-67) DASH indicator type of Kurz Kasch knobs (which changed to a dot sometime in 1967).
"Vintage" style black knobs were never used on round-top "New Style" 360 models. In fact, the silver-top knobs debuted with these guitars in September 1964.
Re: NGD! Vintage 360/12 Fireglo (A Paul W restoration)
Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 2:05 pm
by mike_d
collin wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 1:34 pm
steverok wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 8:09 am
That's a stunner. Why do I find it funny that, with all that restoration work, it doesn't have vintage black knobs lol ?
Because it would be really poor restoration work to use the wrong type of knobs for this guitar.
Not only does it have the correct silver-topped knobs, it has the early (pre-67) DASH indicator type of Kurz Kasch knobs (which changed to a dot sometime in 1967).
"Vintage" style black knobs were never used on round-top "New Style" 360 models. In fact, the silver-top knobs debuted with these guitars in September 1964.
Thanks for the information, Collin. I knew there were some subtle differences in the knobs but wasn’t sure when they switched from the dash type to the dot.
Re: NGD! Vintage 360/12 Fireglo (A Paul W restoration)
Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 4:43 pm
by scoobster28
It looks fantastic!
Re: NGD! Vintage 360/12 Fireglo (A Paul W restoration)
Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 5:00 pm
by mike_d
scoobster28 wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 4:43 pm
It looks fantastic!
Thanks! And it sounds as great as it looks.
Re: NGD! Vintage 360/12 Fireglo (A Paul W restoration)
Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 7:56 pm
by kennyhowes
that’s hot
Re: NGD! Vintage 360/12 Fireglo (A Paul W restoration)
Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 9:11 pm
by jps
collin wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 1:34 pm...it has the early (pre-67) DASH indicator type of Kurz Kasch knobs (which changed to a dot sometime in 1967).
Interesting information here. These are the knobs that came on my former '67 330.
Re: NGD! Vintage 360/12 Fireglo (A Paul W restoration)
Posted: Wed May 03, 2023 9:16 am
by mike_d
jps wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 9:11 pm
collin wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 1:34 pm...it has the early (pre-67) DASH indicator type of Kurz Kasch knobs (which changed to a dot sometime in 1967).
Interesting information here. These are the knobs that came on my former '67 330.
1967 Vintage Knobs-800_2159.jpg
330-1200_7093.jpg
Body_1200_7094.jpg
In checking out the close up picture of those knobs, it looks like the bass volume and tone knobs have the dash and the treble volume and tone knobs have the dots. I didn’t notice any difference at first, but had to zoom in to tell. Cool.
Re: NGD! Vintage 360/12 Fireglo (A Paul W restoration)
Posted: Wed May 03, 2023 2:14 pm
by collin
jps wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 9:11 pm
collin wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 1:34 pm...it has the early (pre-67) DASH indicator type of Kurz Kasch knobs (which changed to a dot sometime in 1967).
Interesting information here. These are the knobs that came on my former '67 330.
1967 Vintage Knobs-800_2159.jpg
330-1200_7093.jpg
Body_1200_7094.jpg
Perfectly normal for 1967 and even early 1968, the change was transitioned in (starting in 1967), not an abrupt change.
They are typically all dot knobs from late '68 onward.
Re: NGD! Vintage 360/12 Fireglo (A Paul W restoration)
Posted: Thu May 04, 2023 2:28 pm
by jdogric12
Yep, I've got a March 1967 336 with dash dot dot dash. Maybe they were sneaking Morse code to someone!
Re: NGD! Vintage 360/12 Fireglo (A Paul W restoration)
Posted: Sat May 06, 2023 8:54 am
by mike_d
Here’s another side by side with my Carl Wilson 360/6.
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