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4004CII 2004 neck size…
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 11:48 am
by henry5
Hi all! Am I correct in assuming a 2004 Cheyenne II would have a really big neck? I once played one from about 2008 and it was huge.
Re: 4004CII 2004 neck size…
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 12:05 pm
by jps
Yes. But it all comes down to what each of us prefer. My '4004Cii''s neck was too large for my comfort, but there are many who find them perfect.
Re: 4004CII 2004 neck size…
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:53 pm
by henry5
Hi Jeff!
Well the one I had (sometime after 2012) was fine, but my benchmarks are my two ‘72 4001s. I can play a bigger neck, but what I meant was is a 2004 likely to be as huge as a 2008? Because that would be a no-no for me.
Re: 4004CII 2004 neck size…
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:58 pm
by teeder
I've forgotten alot of this stuff, but my uneducated guess is the 2004 would be a very big neck.
Where's that "Measure Your Girth" thread when we need it?

Re: 4004CII 2004 neck size…
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 3:41 pm
by jps
henry5 wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:53 pm
Hi Jeff!
Well the one I had (sometime after 2012) was fine, but my benchmarks are my two ‘72 4001s. I can play a bigger neck, but what I meant was is a 2004 likely to be as huge as a 2008? Because that would be a no-no for me.
RIC changed the neck blank on the 4004s to the same narrower neck as that of the 4003 near the end of 2011, so I would think a 4004 from '08 to be the thicker neck version.
I have yet to see a newer 4003 with the current neck that is supposed to feel more like an early '70s one. No dealers anywhere near me, anymore.

Re: 4004CII 2004 neck size…
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 3:43 pm
by jps
teeder wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:58 pm
I've forgotten alot of this stuff, but my uneducated guess is the 2004 would be a very big neck.
Where's that "Measure Your Girth" thread when we need it?
That would be somewhere else, entirely.
Actually, I believe the chart is located
somewhere on the RRF.
Re: 4004CII 2004 neck size…
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:12 pm
by henry5
jps wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 3:43 pm
teeder wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:58 pm
I've forgotten alot of this stuff, but my uneducated guess is the 2004 would be a very big neck.
Where's that "Measure Your Girth" thread when we need it?
That would be somewhere else, entirely.

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Re: 4004CII 2004 neck size…
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:13 pm
by henry5
jps wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 3:41 pm
henry5 wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:53 pm
Hi Jeff!
Well the one I had (sometime after 2012) was fine, but my benchmarks are my two ‘72 4001s. I can play a bigger neck, but what I meant was is a 2004 likely to be as huge as a 2008? Because that would be a no-no for me.
I have yet to see a newer 4003 with the current neck that is supposed to feel more like an early '70s one. No dealers anywhere near me, anymore.
Me neither!
Re: 4004CII 2004 neck size…
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:14 pm
by henry5
teeder wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:58 pm
I've forgotten alot of this stuff, but my uneducated guess is the 2004 would be a very big neck.
Where's that "Measure Your Girth" thread when we need it?
That was my thought. Which is a shame.

Re: 4004CII 2004 neck size…
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:56 pm
by jps
teeder wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:58 pm
I've forgotten alot of this stuff, but my uneducated guess is the 2004 would be a very big neck.
Where's that "Measure Your Girth" thread when we need it?
I have it as both an xls (Windows )and a numbers (MAC) file if you want it.
Re: 4004CII 2004 neck size…
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 8:37 am
by teeder
Re: 4004CII 2004 neck size…
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 6:41 am
by woodyng
I used to own a Laredo and a Cii both made in 2004 at different times of the year. The necks were night and day.
Long story short, you just have to try each one out in person to feel what you’re gettting…..maybe post 2006 the necks started to get rounder and clubbier….but my ‘06 Cii has a reasonably nice profile too.
My 04 Cii had one of the best profiles of any 4004 I’ve owned or played…”best” for me means wide, somewhat square, and shallow.
No rounded deep C for me please!
Re: 4004CII 2004 neck size…
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:34 pm
by rickenbrother
I don't think there was any particular neck size for most years. if you 'd like a 4004 and very picky about the neck size, get one made no earlier than last 2011. They had the 4003 neck profile by then and probably the most consistent size from one to another due to CNC routing.
My JG 4004 from '04 has a neck that's very comfortable to me. My '05 has the slimmest neck profile (from to back).
Re: 4004CII 2004 neck size…
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 2:33 pm
by henry5
woodyng wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 6:41 am
My 04 Cii had one of the best profiles of any 4004 I’ve owned or played…”best” for me means wide, somewhat square, and shallow.
No rounded deep C for me please!
That would be more my preference too.
Re: 4004CII 2004 neck size…
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2025 5:28 am
by woodyng
Comparison of My 98 Cheyenne vs an 08 Cii. The Cii had the 2-piece neck, very deep, rounded, and clubby.