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Nut on jack conection 4001c64
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 2:42 am
by _macca_
Hi!
I have a Rickenbacker 4001c64 and I wanted to show you a photo of the jack connection.
Don't you think there's a washer missing? Or maybe there's a wider nut missing?.
This doubt arose because I bought a silent jack and the system does not make a good connection and I think that is why (on my other guitars and basses it works perfectly).
Thanks for you help
Re: Nut on jack conection 4001c64
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 4:11 am
by _macca_
This is other 4001c64 (2010). It is diferent!!
Re: Nut on jack conection 4001c64
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 7:45 am
by pag
Your jack socket without a washer under the nut looks fine. If the problem persists with standard jacks the first thing I’d do is get the surround off and check the connections inside the socket in case theres a poor joint etc. A washer is only there for preventing the securing nut from slipping and I’ve used jack sockets without washers without any issues. As long as the socket nut is tightly secured a washer makes no electrical difference to the connections inside the jack socket itself. The only connection issue that would arise with a jack socket itself (assuming all the interior solder connections etc. are intact) would be if the full length of the jack plug is prevented from entering fully to connect with the tip (plus ring for stereo) and sleeve. That can happen if the nut is too high up the threads on the socket and close to coming off! Get a washer if you want to make sure the jack socket doesn’t work loose. I’ve never used silent jack plugs myself and prefer standard Neutrik jack plugs. If its only the silent jack then thats the problem not the bass.
Re: Nut on jack conection 4001c64
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 2:28 pm
by Isaac
What's a silent jack? Silent plugs I get.
Re: Nut on jack conection 4001c64
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 3:15 am
by _macca_
pag wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 7:45 am
Your jack socket without a washer under the nut looks fine. If the problem persists with standard jacks the first thing I’d do is get the surround off and check the connections inside the socket in case theres a poor joint etc. A washer is only there for preventing the securing nut from slipping and I’ve used jack sockets without washers without any issues. As long as the socket nut is tightly secured a washer makes no electrical difference to the connections inside the jack socket itself. The only connection issue that would arise with a jack socket itself (assuming all the interior solder connections etc. are intact) would be if the full length of the jack plug is prevented from entering fully to connect with the tip (plus ring for stereo) and sleeve. That can happen if the nut is too high up the threads on the socket and close to coming off! Get a washer if you want to make sure the jack socket doesn’t work loose. I’ve never used silent jack plugs myself and prefer standard Neutrik jack plugs. If its only the silent jack then thats the problem not the bass.
have several standard neutrik jack plug and works well. The silent jack plug only does not work with this bass (because in my other guitars works perfectly) and frist of all i though in the nut, or maybe as you said, the length of the jack. The strange thing is that it works if I pull on two times quickly. Is it possible to send you video?
Re: Nut on jack conection 4001c64
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 3:17 am
by _macca_
Isaac wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 2:28 pm
What's a silent jack? Silent plugs I get.
This is it!
Re: Nut on jack conection 4001c64
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 12:00 pm
by Uffingdon
I’ve got a 4003S with a mono jack socket like yours and use a right angled Silent Neutrik jack plug as pictured with no issues whatsoever, my guess would be the collar on the jack plug is not travelling all the way to make a connection.
I would try removing the jack plate with the socket in place and see what’s going on when the jack plug is pushed in, maybe for some reason the tip of the jack plug is not going fully in and locking in place?
Re: Nut on jack conection 4001c64
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 12:54 am
by doctorwho
For reference, there are lock washers on the inside of the jack, per the Rickenbacker jack diagram:
- Rickenbacker single jack schematic, used for educational purposes only.
You might check that the inner lock washers are there, I have seen them missing on used instruments.
Re: Nut on jack conection 4001c64
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:50 am
by pag
Looking at that right angle jack plug makes me think the problem may be simply the design of the silen plug. The right angle jack body might be preventing the jack from going all the way in and the contact with the tip might be a fraction out causing an intermittent signal. If you put a washer under the socket nut it might raise the socket tube out enough to fully engage the plug.
Re: Nut on jack conection 4001c64
Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2024 11:04 am
by pag
Check by swapping the lead around and use the straight end into the bass and right angle into the amp. I remember having similar trouble with a Planet Waves right angle jack that I borrowed from a guitarist. The plastic outer of the plug body was too thick for a bass with a recessed socket.
Re: Nut on jack conection 4001c64
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 2:17 pm
by Isaac
_macca_ wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 3:17 am
Isaac wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 2:28 pm
What's a silent jack? Silent plugs I get.
This is it!
So it's not a jack, it's a plug.
Re: Nut on jack conection 4001c64
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:51 am
by _macca_
Thanks guys! .I will try to test what you suggest. When I do, I will inform you of the result.