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4005V - NBD

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:32 pm
by bluewhale
Forumites,

Please join me in welcoming this new 4005V Fireglo into the world.

I never thought I would be able to own one of these. I wrote e-mail to RIC in 1996 suggesting that they consider reissuing the 4005. I thought that if they could produce the 360 on a regular basis, why not the 4005? Plus semi-hollow Epiphone basses were selling well at the time. I guess my powers of persuasion finally took hold.

But seriously, I really like the toaster pickups in this bass. In the middle position, they seem to compete with each other, like a Jazz bass but more so. This might be an excellent use case for Rick-o-Sound. Has anyone tried this? But the sound really opens up when I solo the neck pickup - thunderous and clear at the same time.

While waiting for the bass to arrive, I imagined that I would replace the strings with flatwounds. But I think the toasters and rounds are a perfect match. I’m sticking with them.

The fingerboard on this specimen is best appreciated up close, maybe with a magnifying glass. The gloss finish reveals the fine details of the wood grain. And the triangle inlays are uniquely elegant. Does anyone here know the material? RIC splash page advertises ``crushed pearl inlays,” but I do not believe this is pearl. Specifications section only says ``Triangle pearlescent.”

Bottom line, this is an outstanding and very special bass.

bluewhale
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Re: 4005V - NBD

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:58 pm
by jps
The bass looks great, Steve! :D

Yes, toasters and round wounds are great, but so are toaster and flats, so you need to buy another 4005V, say, in Jetglo. :mrgreen:

Most of the recordings I have of my old '67 4005WB are with round wounds.

Re: 4005V - NBD

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 11:22 pm
by ram
Congratulations a beautiful score. I too have welcomed one to my house last month (a MG 4005V). I agree with all you said but I have no idea what material is used in the shark fins. They are pretty though. One thing that really blew me away was the neck. I have has a '74 4002 since '74. The best neck I have ever played (one of the main reasons I still have it). I am actually liking the 5th knob... kinda fun! The neck on my new 4005V is almost identical in shape, thickness and feel to the 4001. I'm in heaven with it. I have not tried the Ric-O-Sound yet but hope to early next year. I hope you like yours as much as I like mine!

Re: 4005V - NBD

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:07 pm
by jdogric12
If you're diming the knobs, try this instead:
Treble Volume 10
Treble Tone 10
Bass Volume 9
Bass Tone 8-10 (to taste)
5th knob anywhere near-ish the center

If you prefer a warmer rhythm sound (on guitar especially), swap my trebles above with the bass.

Probably can't go wrong with ROS though.

I never dime all knobs on any guitar anymore. Something subtle but sweet opens up when you back one pickup off a little.

Re: 4005V - NBD

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2024 6:34 am
by CatHead
Very nice indeed! :)

Re: 4005V - NBD

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2024 9:07 am
by kennyhowes
jdogric12 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:07 pm I never dime all knobs on any guitar anymore. Something subtle but sweet opens up when you back one pickup off a little.
Do you find that to be the case if the blend knob is the one being backed off?

Re: 4005V - NBD

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 7:59 pm
by jdogric12
kennyhowes wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2024 9:07 am
jdogric12 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:07 pm I never dime all knobs on any guitar anymore. Something subtle but sweet opens up when you back one pickup off a little.
Do you find that to be the case if the blend knob is the one being backed off?
Im not certain, but Im pretty sure 10-10-10-10 and the 5th in any position still has the "dull" sound I dislike now that I am aware of it. It's the kind of thing I never noticed until I read about it and started messing with it myself.

Re: 4005V - NBD

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2024 6:26 pm
by bluewhale
jps wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:58 pm The bass looks great, Steve! :D

Yes, toasters and round wounds are great, but so are toaster and flats, so you need to buy another 4005V, say, in Jetglo.
Thank, Jeffrey, I've always had a thing for Jetglo and checkerboard.

Re: 4005V - NBD

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2024 6:35 pm
by bluewhale
jdogric12 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:07 pm If you're diming the knobs, try this instead:
Treble Volume 10
Treble Tone 10
Bass Volume 9
Bass Tone 8-10 (to taste)
5th knob anywhere near-ish the center

If you prefer a warmer rhythm sound (on guitar especially), swap my trebles above with the bass.

Probably can't go wrong with ROS though.

I never dime all knobs on any guitar anymore. Something subtle but sweet opens up when you back one pickup off a little.
Thanks, Jason, I totally agree. ROS would force me to buy a second amp. Maybe it's time.

Re: 4005V - NBD

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:33 am
by teeder
jdogric12 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:07 pm If you're diming the knobs, try this instead:
Treble Volume 10
Treble Tone 10
Bass Volume 9
Bass Tone 8-10 (to taste)
5th knob anywhere near-ish the center

If you prefer a warmer rhythm sound (on guitar especially), swap my trebles above with the bass.

Probably can't go wrong with ROS though.

I never dime all knobs on any guitar anymore. Something subtle but sweet opens up when you back one pickup off a little.
That's pretty much how I always ran my 4001V63's. The tone really opened up when backing the neck volume off just a touch.
No experience with a 5th knob.

Re: 4005V - NBD

Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 2:02 pm
by Isaac
I am one of those who doesn't "get" the fifth knob. So far, I don't see what it can do for me that I can't do just as easily by adjusting the neck pickup volume control.

Re: 4005V - NBD

Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 4:48 pm
by Goingblankagain
So pretty. My dream bass too.so glad they are being produced again. Congrats!

Re: 4005V - NBD

Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 10:19 pm
by jps
teeder wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:33 am
jdogric12 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:07 pm If you're diming the knobs, try this instead:
Treble Volume 10
Treble Tone 10
Bass Volume 9
Bass Tone 8-10 (to taste)
5th knob anywhere near-ish the center

If you prefer a warmer rhythm sound (on guitar especially), swap my trebles above with the bass.

Probably can't go wrong with ROS though.

I never dime all knobs on any guitar anymore. Something subtle but sweet opens up when you back one pickup off a little.
That's pretty much how I always ran my 4001V63's. The tone really opened up when backing the neck volume off just a touch.
No experience with a 5th knob.
Kinda like this.
Jeff-with-4003FL-1200 70a.jpg

Re: 4005V - NBD

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2024 9:23 am
by teeder
jps wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 10:19 pm
teeder wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:33 am
jdogric12 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:07 pm If you're diming the knobs, try this instead:
Treble Volume 10
Treble Tone 10
Bass Volume 9
Bass Tone 8-10 (to taste)
5th knob anywhere near-ish the center

If you prefer a warmer rhythm sound (on guitar especially), swap my trebles above with the bass.

Probably can't go wrong with ROS though.

I never dime all knobs on any guitar anymore. Something subtle but sweet opens up when you back one pickup off a little.
That's pretty much how I always ran my 4001V63's. The tone really opened up when backing the neck volume off just a touch.
No experience with a 5th knob.
Kinda like this.

Jeff-with-4003FL-1200 70a.jpg
Exactly like that! Especially with the patented JPS control knob alignment. :lol:

Re: 4005V - NBD

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2024 11:32 am
by jps
teeder wrote: Thu Dec 26, 2024 9:23 am
jps wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 10:19 pm
teeder wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:33 am

That's pretty much how I always ran my 4001V63's. The tone really opened up when backing the neck volume off just a touch.
No experience with a 5th knob.
Kinda like this.

Jeff-with-4003FL-1200 70a.jpg
Exactly like that! Especially with the patented JPS control knob alignment. :lol:
® and ™ too! :mrgreen: