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Cry for a Shadow
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 9:53 pm
by lennonon
Hello friends. So, just what instruments are we hearing on CFAS? Obviously Lennon has his Rick, but is George on the Futurama? And is Paul playing the first Hof? It can't be Stu's base upside down, can it? Nah...
Anyone?
Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 12:54 pm
by doctorwho
Isn't this song the anthem for all those on the Basses board wanting but unable to get a 4003 Shadow?
Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:44 pm
by beatlefan
Not from ME!! ;^)
Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:42 pm
by lennonon
I'm not sure I get it. Paul's playing a 4003? Umm...anyone able to tell me what George and Paul are playing here. I'm going w/ Futurama and Hofner Cavern Bass....
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:07 am
by admin
Michael: I would agree with you that George Harrison is in all likelihood using his Futurama on "Cry For A Shadow" recorded in the fall of 1960. I think the recording was made before Paul McCartney acquired his Hofner violin bass, however. Let the timeline begin!
By way of explanation, Dr. Who is a punster and hence the word play on the 4003 "Shadow" bass. In this department, he will never let us down or leave us flat.
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:30 am
by lennonon
AHH!!! Thank you Peter....and I see the pun now as well....
You're obviously right about the violin bass...what could he be playing? Are we safe in assuming it's Paul playing bass? It can't be Stu's bass, can it?
Hmmm......
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:43 am
by admin
I am not sure that it is Paul on bass. My take, (sorry Dr. Who) is that this recoding was several months after the Scotland May 1960 Tour with Johnny Gentle.
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 2:48 pm
by lennonon
Interesting. Paul can't be playing guitar then...unless he's on John's old Hofner?? The solid 7 was a wreck by this point, no? I'm quite confused now. I wonder who the bassist is if it's not Paul. Someone from Sheridan's house band?
Hmm....
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 3:31 am
by jeff
The recording date for "Cry For A Shadow" is June 22, 1961 recorded in Hamburg at Friedrich-Ebert Halle. Also recorded on this day was "My Bonnie", "The Saints", and "Why". Harrison used his Futurama Resonet on these sessions, and McCartney was the bassist at this time and was more than likely using the '61 Hofner bass.
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:02 am
by admin
Jeff: Thanks for this clarity. I felt the recording was earlier. It would make the 1961 Hofner a likely candidate.
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:08 am
by jeff
Peter, if you're looking for one of the best resources on the early years of The Beatles, may I recommend "The Beatles: From Cavern To Star Club" by Hans Olof Gottfridsson. I believe it is still in print. Here's a link :
http://www.premiumpublishing.com/eng/products/beatles.html.
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:08 am
by admin
Jeff: Jeff Rath should be close to 3000 at this point.
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:20 am
by jwr2
gee does this mean I need to get a life ...
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:27 am
by jeff
I don't believe I'm familiar with Mr. Rath's work. Has he done any books on The Beatles?
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:51 am
by jwr2
no ... but I did stay at a holiday inn express last night ...