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Rubber Pad vs. Rubber Grommets on 660-12
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 9:50 am
by jholcomb
Anyone have any idea why Rick used foam rubber pads under the toasters as opposed to rubber mounting grommets? Has anyone converted their 660-12 to rubber grommets?
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:17 am
by admin
The foam pads are better at reducing feedback than the rubber grommets John, at least in my experience. Also, some find that it is a neater looking appearance as it hides the routed out area under the pickup as well. I prefer the older look and switched the foam pads on my Model 350 to the grommets.
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 8:08 am
by jholcomb
Thanks, Peter. I'll probably leave the foam pads alone. I prefer the look of the rubber grommets, also, but I don't know if it's worth switching.
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 3:50 pm
by admin
John: I would argue that you will not notice a great difference in terms of the feedback.
If you like the grommet-look better then I would use that as the guiding principle. Go for the grommets. The pads are of good quality and you can always put them back if you don't like the change.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:58 am
by jholcomb
Forgive me for sounding stupid...but I've never switched them out before...how much hassle is it, do the toaster tops come flying apart when you take them off?
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 11:15 am
by admin
It is no hassle at all. Only two screws for each pickup.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 1:36 pm
by scoobster28
Careful you do not get the grommets to fall in the sound hole, or you will have quite a challenge getting them out.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:37 pm
by jps
"You probably want two grommets under each side of the pickup"
Will one Wallace and one Gromit do instead?
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:29 pm
by jholcomb
Well, it's a 660-12, so no worry with a sound hole!
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:57 pm
by rick12dr
Uhh, Peter, there are SIX grommets under a toaster....
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:32 am
by doctorwho
... as there are on my 370/12v64:
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:13 am
by jholcomb
Two or one under each screw?
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 9:05 pm
by rick12dr
One under each screw.Actually, ,looking from above the PU, the Middle screw is the one that holds the PU onto the guitar.The ones in the corners are small machine screws that have a nut underneath, so the grommets on the corners center under the nut.FWIW, to the unenlightened novice Rick fan, a first glance at the grommet may make you think it's 2 grommets, but I think of them as more like tiny black bagels....
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 3:06 am
by jps
Now I'm hungry!
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 3:45 am
by admin
Don: You are absolutely right. You were right all along and I was wrong. Six grommets under each toaster is the convention. On my 350 I just put them under the middle screws for a period and it looked fine to me.