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Does anyone know of any links for Hofner parts?
I just bought a Rogue VB-100 from MF for $199 only because I heard tons of great reviews about this inexpensive bass. I would however like to upgrade the bridge, and tail piece. I already have new flats for it.
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Northcoast music has parts. I put on the Hofner knobs and painted the switches white with plastic paint. I put brown shoe polish on the back of the pickguard and control panel to darken them up.
But I used a dremel tool to remove the squigglie thing from the tailpiece. Once you go beyond the basic few mods it started getting pretty expensive. Then it maybe time to consider a new or used Hofner. If you don't have a case you can get one from music123 that fits the jay thurser copy.
I got the Rogue because I had a sixties copy that was not near as accurate in detail as the Rogue. Like you I got it for 199. But I think that the old bass might sound a bit better.
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Thanks, Dan. Did you have any problem with the string length? The bass shipped yesterday, and I have already bought short scale flats. After reading some more reviews on the bass, some people where saying that the short scale strings would not work. I hope I'm not stuck with strings I can't use.
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Your welcome. No Scott I did'nt. People say thats lots of things won't fit on these basses that do. You will see on the site when you order for instance that the knobs don't fit but they do.
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There are some parts, tailpieces esp. on ebay.
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A brand new tailpiece is about seventy. The real trick pieces to me are the tuners. If we could find a guitar head that would screw on the already tapped head on the Rogue tuners that would be the final point to seperate the men from the boys so to speak.
In other words you'd have ten footer. At ten foot most people would'nt know the difference. This is because the pickups can't be seen well in a dimly lit venue and they all are dimly lit. They are the really expensive parts too.
The wiring is the same. I think they actually sound pretty decent thru a good amp. After I set mine up it plays pretty well.
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Dan, Got the Rogue yesterday and it looks really nice. I had a few problems however. I bought short scale Chromes for it last week and guess what, they do not fit. No big deal, I already sold them on the DudePit. I also bought again last week before I had the bass an Epiphone case that was suppose to fit Hofner's, Epi Viola, etc. Super nice case I picked up for $40. Guess what, the Rogue doesn't fit. I couldn't believe it. The Epi viola basses must have a really narrow body. Live and learn. That will teach me from getting too excited about buying new gear. I do realy like the Rogue, it's sound really nice even with the ****** strings on it. Looks like I might have to adjust the truss rod a little, there is no relief at all on the neck. The action was set really low and I was surprised that I didn't have any fret buzz at all.
Over all nice bass for $199Image
If anyone has an Epi, or Hofner and needs a new case, I have one for sale.
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Sorry to hear about that epi case Bob. I had heard it from a usually reliable source that they would fit. In fact I was gonna buy one until I saw the Jay Thurser case for thirty nine.
They wanted fifty nine at the same catalog dealer for the same case for the Viola epi. So I got the Jay and it fit fine.
I played a Viola once in a store and was very impressed with it. I became less impressed when I saw the sticker for $479 LOL..
I would have sworn too that it was smaller than the Rogue too. But I was told it was my eyes. optical illusion and all of that. I guess I was right. They are a lot heavier and I mean a lot than the Rogue. The thing was on a second level hanging and I knew the minute I got my hands on it the thing was heavier. The problem was I already had it in the air then. I got it down alright though and right back up there after I saw that sticker price.
It played very well. But in addition to the price I did'nt like the control panel arrangement. Not very hoffie like.
But if you changed that to a Hofner then due to the shape it might look even more Hofner like than the Rogue does. However as you said the Rogue is a great value for the money. The Viola was on sale when I got the Rogue too though for $259. Still more than the Rogue.
I had to adjust my truss rod too but just a tad. Do you do any mods on yours yet?
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Dan, Your right about the Epi. I was looking at one also but the price was a little too high.
The only mods I have done so far, or planning on are swapping the rosewood bridge for an ebony bridge I picked up one on EBay for $12.99. If your interested he has more for sale, but now it looks like he starting the bids at $14.99.
http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3763475782&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT
There was also a tail piece I left slip buy from Superior Bass for $35. I'm not sure if I want to replace the tailpiece because I will end up with a shorter scale length, and I'll have to go back to short scale strings. The only other thing I've done was replace the knobs. I may just stop there. I guess I'll look at the Jay Thurser case now. Who did you buy it from for $39?
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Music123 had the case on sale. You are right if you use a Hofner tailpiece then the bridge will have to be moved closer to the bridge pickup to get it to intonate properly. Does superior bass have a site? I might check out the tailpiece and see what it looks like.
My solution was easier and certainly cheaper than anything else. I just cut that squigglie thing off the Rogue tailpiece with a dremel tool. It can be flipped over if you leave any tell tail marks.
Then with that sqigglie thing gone you have to get closer to realize its not the real thing. It also makes the tailpiece appear to be longer than it really is.
Those knobs really look nice on there don't they? Go ahead and paint those switches white. I used krylon plastic paint from walmart and brushed it on with a small model paint brush. The switches and the new knobs really transform the control panel. Add in the cut off squigglie thing out of there and that end of the bass is ready to rock.
That ebony bridge looks nice. Does it intonate the same? I have heard that the Viola bridge is actually the best intonating bridge to use, even more so than a Hofners.
The big bugaboo is the tuners. There is no mistaking those big butterflies as Hofner tuners and they are the big spoiler on that end of the bass. But the tuners can be taken apart at the top as they just screw on. So that you don't really have to replace the whole thing all the way down to where they go on the headstock but just that head.
The trick will finding or modding some tuner heads to fit from a guitar. Since the heads on Hofner basses are essentially the same size as most guitars. My Ric 360 tuners go on and off the same way with that screw. The hole might could be enlarged to fit if we could find some cheap set to try. Another option might be to put in a set screw from the side of some guitar tuner heads.
What rig do you run yours thru and how do you like the sound of your Rogue thru it Bob? My old sixties copy has a much thinner neck and thicker tone even though its not nearly as much of a look alike. So I still prefer the Rogue.
One thing that I have seen on some basses that might make a real Hofner more usable is the hipshot tuner than can instantly make your low E whatever deeper note you want and instantly retune to E if you want.
I went to a clinic the other night and saw the bassist Roscoe Beck giving it a work out. He had a band with him and his signature bass with him of course that has the hipshot.
He had a five and four string signature bass but he said since they added the hipshot to his four string model he prefers it now.
Of course his basses are long scale and look nothing like a Hofner so they are not for me. Still it was and interesting clinic.
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Superior Bass has the tailpiece back on EBAY.
http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4713&item=3767124008&tc=photo

Dan, I use a Fender BXR 200 head with a Hartke 4x10. As soon I got the Rogue it immediatetly gave me that warm deep bass tone I've been looking for even with those ****** strings. I will put Chromes on it when they get here. I couldn't get that really warm tone with my Ric and Fender J. I was considering a SansAmp DI. I use the solo on, bass, and treble on. I tried with the treble off and I thought the sound was a little too boomy. I don't know how your pu's are but mine I can barley turn on much past say 2 on a scale of 1 to 10. Really a lot of output, I was certainly surprised at that. I'm still up in the air about the tailpiece. I'll let you know when I put the ebony bridge on after I get the strings. How did the brown shoe polish work out for you on the pick guard, and control plate?
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Thats cool, I have often wondered what that very combo would sound like with the Rogue. With my older copy I always run both pickups on. With the Rogue I like both pickups on too but I back off the volume on the bridge pickup just a hair.

My old one actually sounds deeper to me. Maybe its that two and a quarter inch thick hollow body with real F holes. Thats what it is, if you can imagine a Hofner looking like that LOL.. However I should let some more people listen to them and see what others think too.

The tail piece is and easy wack job. It takes more time to get the dremel tool's cut off wheel chucked up than the actual cutting Har. Use the fiberglass cut off wheel if you do it. They cut much faster than that ceramic thingies and will not shatter either.

The shoe polish will not make it the cream color of the real thing. But it will cut that bright white shine. That bright shine was too much to me with the Hofner knobs. With the polish on there you can really see the white switches stand out. I put just a little on the face and a lot on the back. I wound up cleaning it off some as I got it too dark to start with. I was surprized that it got that dark. You can get the real pickguards but they are about seventy five. Then there would be the control panel that would'nt match and they will not fit.

Did you get your case yet? Music123 is real fast at getting things out. I have ordered from musicians friend and american musical before but not music123. So this was the first time for me with them. Musicians friend is the slowest but if they have the right price then I use them. If the other has the same product though at the same price they get the nod. You get the part from them before musicians friend even gets it on their computer, no joke. I had another order from them I had ordered before the case and it still came a week after the case. Really fast turn around.

I assume that the chromes must be flat wounds. I had a buddy who had some flats on a Fender once. But its been so long ago that neither he nor I can remember the differences if there were any. He has never bought any more though. Perhaps that says something. But then again he's a really tight guy. My wife likes the red fuzz on the tuner ends of these strings LOL.. But hey she let me get a set of Ludwigs at the same time because they were wine red. So red fuzz it is for right now anyway. Let me know how they sound when you put them on there. Are you already using them on your Ric or Fender?
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Hey Dan, looks like this thread is becoming are own. This was the first time I tried the D'Addario Chromes, and yes they are flats. I like them, they are easy on the fingers, and IMO have a nice warm tone to them. I think roundwounds are too bright for me. I had TI's on my Ric at one time, but I just put LaBella flats on it. The Fender I went middle ground and put GHS Brite flats on it. They are actually halfwounds. I don't much care for them. I will probably put LaBella's on it, or wait until I get a better feel for the Chromes. I haven't bought the case yet, but I will take your advise and buy one eventualy. I was however able to sell the Epi case that I had on Ebay. The ebony bridge I bought for the Rogue needs some adjustments to the bottom. It sets to high off of the archtop and therefore creates about the highest action you would ever see. So, the bottom needs planed off. Not worth buying one.
My wife likes the squiggly thing on the tailpiece, so for now I will leave it on. She didn't complain much when I bought the bass so I'll leave it be for now. Are Ludwigs strings?
I presume there not drums. LOL
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So we have our very own thread Eh LOL.. Thanks for the info on the labella flats. It sounds like the ebony bridge looks great but a bit more work than you wanted was hidden.
My wife liked the squigglie thing too. But she got the red fuzz on the strings and the wine colored drums. So off with the squigglie things head LOL..
You know another thing that I heard from a Hofner owner is that the Jay Thruser copy will fit right in a real Hofner case and is the exact size of a Hofner. That seems mighty strange since my Rogue fits right in the Thruser case?

I'm still looking for some tuner heads. If I find some that would clinch the ten to twelve foot look a like.
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